Many thanks to Edward Morbius and all the contributors to this group, for helping so many of us make informed...
Many thanks to Edward Morbius and all the contributors to this group, for helping so many of us make informed decisions about where to go next.
I've decided to head to the federated services worlds, starting with Mastodon and Pluspora. I don't want a single corporate owner to own the ability to arbitrarily switch off my whole community again. I choose this one value ahead of other factors, like the current size of the community, the 'polish' of the UI, the integrations with my mobile devices ...
Others will make different decisions, and they won't all be wrong :-) We all enjoyed G+, so take that sense of enjoyment and improve whatever service you end up using!
I've decided to head to the federated services worlds, starting with Mastodon and Pluspora. I don't want a single corporate owner to own the ability to arbitrarily switch off my whole community again. I choose this one value ahead of other factors, like the current size of the community, the 'polish' of the UI, the integrations with my mobile devices ...
Others will make different decisions, and they won't all be wrong :-) We all enjoyed G+, so take that sense of enjoyment and improve whatever service you end up using!
Can't find you on pluspora, Joe. Do you have a link?
ReplyDeleteAren't diaspora and mastodon much the same. Just now not some tech giant but the "instance" server owner?
ReplyDeleteYeah, you can recreate the community on some other server aka instance, but you also can recreate G+ community in facebook/mewe/reddit/etx
Second the thanks to Edward Morbius!
ReplyDeleteArioch The Simolar organisation model, different content structure.
ReplyDeleteMastodon is microblog (think Twitter), Diaspora is social (think G+).
Arioch They've similar organisation model, different content structure.
ReplyDeleteMastodon is microblog (think Twitter), Diaspora is social (think G+).
Arioch The nope, although both are federated Mastodon, is more like Twitter whilst Diaspora/Pluspora are a bit more like blogging. But anyone can actually follow from either one so probably makes little difference.
ReplyDeleteDanie van der Merwe my point here is that the point of "social networks" is "social capital" - the number of people "subscribed" and "posting". If communities on Mastodon/xxPora were instance-agnostic, were simultaneously hosted on many servers and were not dependent upon ANY of the servers/instances, like NNTP/USENET forums of days past, then it would make difference. Even if I break pots with some server=instance admin and he knocks my community from his instance - the users can still drop in to read and post without noticing it, or at very most would require to change ONE line in community settings to fully resync. But in the "federated" world where communities are tightly bound to servers - that is not what is going to happen. In this sense, what it seems to be exactly the same what WordPress was offering for years: stand-alone blogs mode plus global single-sign-on. But, well, we already have WordPress.
ReplyDeleteThere was also an interesting project to build blogs platform upon WackoWiki engine, but it dies out when developers were bought (hired) by a techno giant Yandex.
It would be better than WordPress but not because of "federation" but because of wiki being integral to blogs.
Then there is LiveJournal, who both opensourced their sources (there are DreamWidth and LJ-Rossia and what not) and invented the OpenID, maybe first independent "borrowed authentication" standard.
Now, the buzz of Mastodon/xxPora and company just flies over my ears, I can not get the point they are pushing.