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G+ death might spur much needed innovation, but right now it really sucks.

G+ death might spur much needed innovation, but right now it really sucks.

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Originally shared by Edgar Brown

As G+ goes away, it has made me look at what the social media landscape will look like in the not so distant future.

It is rather clear to me that FB will soon be the past, it might remain as ubiquitous as e-mail but just as e-mail it will be something we suffer through not a place we just visit for fun. Google likely saw the writing on the wall and, instead of migrating its aging platform into the future, decided to avoid all of the growing pains that the mere idea of social media is undergoing at the moment.

As platforms become larger their influence in society grows with them, the need for censorship, editorializing, and just plain policing grows with them. The deleterious effect FB had on the last US presidential election (and many other events and movements around the world), are the new normal. Governments around the world have noticed, regulation will soon follow.

The first group to vocally react to the pain of this need to conform to societal norms in social media was the Far Right. Under the guise of "Freedom of Speech" a whole market was created and social media platforms started catering to them. Gab was the most notable but more Libertarian sites such as WeMe jumped at the market opportunity. Gab soon realized that conforming to social norms was also needed just to be able to be part of the normal internet, and saw its servers being removed from polite society multiple times. But this is a market, and when there is a market there will be someone to cater to it, even if you have to register your domain in Anguilla.

What seems to be the most common G+ migrant destination, WeMe, is no exception. But as opposed to Gab its Far Right credentials are not as blatant, even though many of its groups are. But WeMe implemented a walled-garden concept, as opposed to other social sites its social groups are closed. You can't just see random public posts where the blatant anti-social behaviors go full-frontal. But remain for long enough in the site, and you will see them. As opposed to Gab, WeMe seems interested in being part of polite society (they did make some changes after Apple kicked their App out of the App store for a few weeks). So that works in our favor. But there have been instances in which Far Right groups seem to have excessive influence in the running of the site, leading to the suspension of some anti-far-right accounts. A FB with a somewhat different balance of power.

But I see that the future is already in motion. Social media will evolve more and more into a public utility, and our online identities (with all of its social nets) will become more and more our property and less and less part of a closed platform. The Fediverse with diaspora (the other popular G+ migrant destination pluspora is a diaspora pod) is perhaps the first to go in that direction. But Tim Berners-Lee has joined the fray and has started to create the missing protocols to make this work, and avoid the walled-gardens.

If this works (OpenID, WebID, and FOAF are some previous standards that point in this direction but have seen limited implementations), then we will stop thinking about what platform are we using or moving to. And, just as with e-mail, will just follow our friends wherever they choose to reside.
https://solid.inrupt.com

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  1. Hallo!,... Edgar Brown du erwähnst Tim Berners-Lee. Bitte, darf ich fragen, wie verhält es sich denn nun eigentlich mit Tim Berners-Lee ???
    Ist er nun ein Unterstützer für freie dezentrale Netzwerke?
    Oder hat er das ummauerte MeWe mit entwickelt?
    Oder macht er beides??
    Und falls er beides macht, wie passt das denn dann zusammen??? Beste Grüße :-)

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  2. Interesting.

    I’ve been incredibly impressed with OpenBook ( openbook.social - Openbook | A social network for a better tomorrow. ) and have supporting the project both sharing the word about them as well as being part of the Alpha testing and financially. I have hope this will be the new home for G+ Refugees.

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  3. Andi Droid As far as I know, Tim Berners-Lee did not work in the development of MeWe, he simply had a consulting role. MeWe is about privacy and walled gardens, but that privacy also implies serious limitations to sharing.

    As I understand it, he has taken some time from academia to work on Solid. He started a company to back the project, so he is much more involved in it.

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  4. Social media will always be superficial & I'm tired of that.

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  5. Edgar Brown
    Dankeschön, lieber Edgar...
    Mir wurde von Freunden oft als Argument, für ein MeWe, gesagt, dass es gut sein muss, weil sogar Tim Bernes-Lee ein Unterstützer sei...
    Nun ja, wenn er nur Anfänglich ein Berater war, dann kann man ja eigentlich nicht wissen, ob er heute noch ein Unterstützer der Plattform wäre!?
    Wer kann schon sagen, was von seiner Beratung letztendlich heute noch in MeWe umgesetzt wurde???
    Meine Skepsis gegenüber der ummauerten Plattform bleibt also weiterhin...
    Denn ich denke, eine Plattform muss kein ummauerter Garten sein!!!
    Man muss doch nur eine Funktion im eigenen Konto haben, damit man wahlweise Beiträge privat oder öffentlich teilen kann und damit man wahlweise privat oder öffentlich mit den Freunden kommunizieren kann.
    Da ich auf eine derartige Funktion natürlich großen Wert lege, bin ich sehr froh, diese Auswahl sowohl in meinem Flickr, als auch in meinem Friendica Konto zu haben!! :))

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  6. Tim Berners-Lee is behind Openbook?

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  7. Diana Studer
    Genau meine Frage, liebe Diana,... Wer kann tatsächlich sagen/wissen, für welche Netzwerke Tim Berners-Lee nun steht??
    Anscheinend hat/oder hatte er also eine beratende Funktion bei MeWe... Und das wird, von vielen, als vertrauenswürdiges Plus, für einen Wechsel zu dieser Plattform gewertet.
    Aber steht Tim Berners-Lee nun auf Seiten von MeWe, oder steht er nicht auf Seiten der Plattform?????
    Wer weiß darüber genaueres?????
    Es ist mir inzwichen alles sehr, sehr suspekt.
    Denn ummauerte Netzwerke und Netzwerke ohne Mauern, sind doch wohl tatsächlich Gegensätze. ;)
    Es verwirrt mich jetzt aber tatsächlich zunehmend, wo überall, der Name von Tim Berners-Lee, Verwendung findet.
    Ich wünschte mehr Klarheit zu den Dingen bezüglich Tim Berners-Lee...
    Für welche Netzwerke steht er heute?
    Unterstützt er inzwischen, gleichermaßen, ummauerte Netzwerke und Netzwerke ohne Mauern??
    Ich dachte bisher, Tim Berners-Lee ist der Vater, des Gedanken, eines freiheitlichen Informationsflusses!?
    Ich bin verwirrt. : (

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  8. Actually, I still turn to e-mail for "entertainment." Of course, since the way people use e-mail has gradually morphed, I don't always get such entertainment!

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  9. Andi Droid I am going with Per Siden 'good is good' and waiting for Openbook. Not going near MeWe.

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  10. Diana Studer
    Tatsächlich setze ich auch etwas Hoffnung auf Openbook, liebe Diana. ;)
    So sehr ärgerlich für viele, das Google sein Aus für GooglePlus vorverlegt hat.
    Es ist dadurch völlig unnötig für viele G+ Nutzer ein zusätzliches Problem geworden...
    Und Openbook kann es nicht schaffen, alles rechtzeitig zum 2. April fertig zu haben.
    Schande!, Schande Google!!!!!!

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  11. Andi Droid It’s two sides of the same coin. MeWe is the closed extreme and their policy explicitly forbids data mining as FB and Google. Berners-Lee approves of this point of view.

    But at the same time, perhaps precisely due to his involvement with MeWe, he realized that social network portability and explicit control over permissions would better serve the individual.

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  12. Edgar Brown
    Nun,... Ich denke, ein Netzwerk kann öffentlich sein und man kann dennoch die Hoheit über die eigenen Daten behalten, lieber Edgar.
    Und ein Netzwerk kann ein ummauerter Garten sein, aber dennoch die Daten absaugen.
    Keine Mauer wird davor schützen, wenn der Gartenbesitzer die Daten absaugen will !!!
    Aber mit einem ummauerten Garten lassen sich sicher viel leichter Geschäfte machen, wenn ein Gartenbesitzer es plötzlich tun will. ;)
    Der wichtigste Punkt allein ist,... Der einzelne Nutzer muss immer die Hoheit über seine eigenen Daten behalten!!!

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  13. What about youme.social? Anyone have opinions on that new one?

    youme.social - Landing Page

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  14. Jay Dela Cruz some of the page layouts look kinda busy to me. I can only take in so many columns and boxes.

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  15. Pamela Conroy Ah. I actually like the 2 column layout of youme. Closer to my G+ layout. And I like less scrolling :)

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