I like Diaspora, and as i was trying to figure out their sharing model, i noticed a couple misleading and confusing...
I like Diaspora, and as i was trying to figure out their sharing model, i noticed a couple misleading and confusing points they make.
When you add someone to your list of contacts, you start following them. But instead of saying that, they present a popup that says you are now sharing with them. That's misleading and confusing. You start sharing with them only when they add you back, or if they manually visit your public profile (which they can do whether or not you have followed them.) [Edit to add: when you add someone to your contacts, it sends a notification to that person you are following them. Maybe that's what the platform is trying to say by "you are now sharing with them"].
Second, their term "Aspects" is weird. What an Aspect is is a sub-collection of your contacts that identify privacy permissions. Similar to g+ circles. They could call it a privacy group, but it's not a membership group, just a sub-grouping of your own contact list. I don't know what else they could call aspects, but the name should suggest privacy contacts, that's all they are from what i can tell.
I could explain this further, but it's already too wordy. We can expound on it in the comments if anyone is interested.
When you add someone to your list of contacts, you start following them. But instead of saying that, they present a popup that says you are now sharing with them. That's misleading and confusing. You start sharing with them only when they add you back, or if they manually visit your public profile (which they can do whether or not you have followed them.) [Edit to add: when you add someone to your contacts, it sends a notification to that person you are following them. Maybe that's what the platform is trying to say by "you are now sharing with them"].
Second, their term "Aspects" is weird. What an Aspect is is a sub-collection of your contacts that identify privacy permissions. Similar to g+ circles. They could call it a privacy group, but it's not a membership group, just a sub-grouping of your own contact list. I don't know what else they could call aspects, but the name should suggest privacy contacts, that's all they are from what i can tell.
I could explain this further, but it's already too wordy. We can expound on it in the comments if anyone is interested.
And yes before anyone says it, I'll take this up over on the diaspora site, but i bring it up here because we should be looking at the various sharing models of these different social net platforms.
ReplyDeleteWell you can share posts with a specific aspect. So whether they are following you or not, they could then see that post if they looked. I guess that's what it means by "sharing with them".
ReplyDeleteWhat you share to public is visible to anybody. What you share to all of your aspects is visible only to the profiles that are in one of several of your aspects. What you share to your aspect X is visible only those in your aspect X.
ReplyDeleteYou see all of the public posts of those in your aspects plus some private/limited ones if the following is reciprocal.
Heinrich C. Kuhn Ah, now let me just be clear, for my own understanding, about the point you made. NOTE: I am in the pluspora pod.
ReplyDeleteIs it true, then, that my "Stream" shows ALL public posts (i.e. from those in my aspects AND any other public posts, from any other diaspora* pods)?
Can members other diaspora* pods share with me?
Do ALL members of other pods in diaspora* (that is, pods that are not pluspora) see my posts in their Stream, regardless of whether they have shared with me?
Roy Gardiner There are two questions hidden in there. First public posts can be seen by anyone if they go to someone's profile page. Second, what shows up in your stream is a matter of what you are subscribed to or what hashtags you are subscribed to. Aspects (sender's aspects) determine whether you have permission to view private posts.
ReplyDeleteRoy Gardiner
ReplyDeleteUsers on other pods will see your public posts if they are tagged with a hashtag they follow, or if they put your profile in at least one of their aspects.
Yes, members of other pods can share with you.
And vice versa.
Roy Gardiner re your last question: see Bill Brayman 's answer.
ReplyDeleteBill Brayman Heinrich C. Kuhn
ReplyDeleteMany thanks to you both for your valued explanations.
In particular, I can now really see the great values of choosing my hashtags (#'s) wisely, so as to really "tailor" the Stream contents to my tastes and interests.
If two users are on different pods, what causes a post to be propagated beyond its source pod? The contacts of the sender (share with) or the contacts of the receiver (subscribe to)?
ReplyDelete/listening
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if i'm wrong, I think diaspora's "Aspect" serves two roles to establish a context for posts:
ReplyDelete1. outgoing - aspects set read permissions. (defaults to public)
2. incoming - aspects are the subscription lists to select what to put in the stream.
my working hypothesis anyway...
Bill Brayman FWIW, you can change the default from public in your profile settings - but yes, your understanding is correct. You put people in aspects and then those people's posts show up in your stream, and you can restrict your posts to only be visible to certain of your aspects.
ReplyDeleteI agree it's not a good word to use, but I'm sure it made sense when they designed it
I can post one item to several circles here. I can't on diaspora, unless I accept that people who are in more than one aspect will receive the item more than once.
ReplyDeleteJosé Pedro Paula unfortunately that option does not exist in the client I'm using (dandelion), nor in the web interface offered to me by Firefox for android (even if I tell it to use the desktop version of the page).
ReplyDeleteJosé Pedro Paula I tried it on mobile with browser set to demand desktop versions.
ReplyDeleteIf I find time I'll try again tomorrow from a real desktop.
I'll report back.
Anyway: thanks!
Heinrich C. Kuhn I can certainly do it from the desktop :)
ReplyDeleteHeinrich C. Kuhn , Fern Kali
ReplyDeleteTried it on a real desktop. There it works.
Thanks to both of you!!!
Pluspora does not seem to be attracting many new users, after the initial rush. Around 7,000 people, which is a tiny number.
ReplyDeleteRon K Jeffries any diaspora pod will do: its users can connect with pluspora users.
ReplyDeleteDiscovering interesting people is a significant challenge on a centralized system. Even more challenging (!!!) on a federated social network.
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