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John Ward turned me onto this new social network, and I'm really liking it a lot.

John Ward turned me onto this new social network, and I'm really liking it a lot. The interface is smooth as silk and, though it's still under development with the official launch not happening till March 5th, it's hugely better than Minds, MeWe, or anything on the Dispora network of which I'm on Pluspora.

https://YouMe.Social
https://YouMe.Social

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  1. please see other recent discussions about it.

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  2. First thought: they better fix their sign-in page quickly as sign-in with G+ is going away in another week or so.

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  3. Cristian Motoiu Why would I take screenshots? It's a simple visit to decide for yourself.

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  4. Brian Holt Hawthorne I'll mention that, yes, I will.

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  5. DL Keur A simple visit doesnt give the idea of user interface and functionality; you have to sign up for that, at least from what I see going to it.

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  6. Chuck Dee I had to sign up for Minds, MeWe, and Pluspora to check them out. I had to sign up to Twitter and Facebook and Google+ to check them out. But, okay. You folks want a screenshot or two, I'll take the time and effort to gift you that ...except g+ won't let me upload photos to this reply. Sigh

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  7. There you peskies go. The actual development isn't launching till March 5th or so, so this version is still bare bones.

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  8. DL Keur
    Thank you!
    We want more information about the social network:
    We want more information about the social network:
    -who is behind her (the team)?
    -What is the size for cloud storage?

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  9. Brian Holt Hawthorne They're already aware of the G+ sign in issue, and have said they'll change it.

    The site has been created by a G+ refugee, Jamez Frondeskias, but they do seem a bit overly keen on adding new features, rather than making the existing stuff work smoothly.

    Having said that, I rather like the UI, and hope it'll settle down, once they've got sign in, mobile apps and notifications working smoothly.

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  10. One man
    Tiny
    Their bandwidth is immensely limited and it uses a template for the website.

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  11. Alex He has a development team. He's not the programmer.

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  12. Brian Holt Hawthorne From the founder: QUOTETH: Jamez Frondeskias: that is being removed and replaced with the standard Google login option.

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  13. I know my rivals better than anyone. It is just him working on it. The entire backend is a purchased product called MooSocial with a modified version of the theme MooPlus

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  14. Alex If you say so. Right now, though, it's certainly better than the other platforms I mention.

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  15. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eVAFTsSmPFmVNNHEvxWKrk82Kls3L19AyOf373yXneGJXLKwYqM1Csmm7sIQAhvJkeQcKaupnL39fFjlNGFpIFgjSS1miTKE4vY=s0

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  16. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6Pq7TEI6s3Dd9tQzs-QbJmE_jwGj_cmc2jyzJHa-_1TS5kiEbmLBgkcTeSIXyNO04mbj7-m3SJnSc7NDgHt5sBNry7tHhpWQR1U=s0

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  17. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YBjQzqJSF_BS5ipOv_I8heTN-YsLBXZgaSrC8c_GrcPQDT323eEVjpVJiRTd6xiTt4QXlQm6kMCfvPJ5rcX3u3UNX59vVxP5QQc=s0

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  18. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sihD0u0cSot2VSdZ25uXM2Ng7LJeMyRSzTQAqEovpT0JT9qIsFySSg7bJdDmQ6eb0GTq_w3JIC0_ftRkMLaFlomQmvXZpXCjjH0=s0

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  19. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZJeAfKC2C86O_oUqaFBOa5BApZ377PnzHxlkgcc9e-a-RZQwdpFrLU2ch7UGZfKXtz0OawFOEiWL_aUHum-ODYYqLKNtMzqZNIc=s0

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  20. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tD-RTrSNxCX8_YFf1_RY9Ua__6X5WoNkFhTI-OGiIQklVk7fE3CZwSGzKOBQTzs8wwVfvPg9o9NYRra_Dk-ghV52Ni4UDRtovP8=s0

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  21. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mAz54m8KvMCxXnwJyvWG9KyyL_LC6yuQwfqZ_vHsq63CzuyATOX-NQzH0dU2ymSoFnpDcXi16J9sb-KlVBZpHX4tKONGhv_6J3Q=s0

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  22. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Fki0M48A6MoI7VXMI0GEF_Jtk-tkTAfmupWDQbufIRP5HkL5YCsn-KE7jVus6a1hrY1USBEEW_-B0uGGNXCVfvyt_lKDXmTIKAA=s0

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  23. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wft9rUnx-BE-A-R5PZBIEWCZD5m6dul8WhYB0flvmXrURitCkbL8-VrBlIBBOz637a3RhV3xGaJsSZwAv1MAJ0bjnxtsIezMnJY=s0

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  24. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KDWRLFS-txPgKtPSvkxHjGBL5gmNocc-owFBFpfWfuGIupVhBArzO28J616KND-VXEhqdZoK32UpyLlBVB-cCiTGnwmFeHS6G08=s0

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  25. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EpoeJ_G4fZaZcv7P3z2GJ2bnDlSWEMtmo4g4VcN5Wnda7LUoVWCF_g0W-MzENQlIO3e3cGIPXQ7Z4NOIdDI26K1OKSvrFF1nOoc=s0

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  26. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c0KYgH_lA7GCGKDeQyQfl-zMeUEz6PO5W3czE8hFEsc25ePkvAEc2GgQervJB7kryUTqRN8xTRZ9Dn7Azow5K1mZGJoXFwNeEjo=s0

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  27. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YEwrzDcQfxbyiGqnhYi4nXJ1Ayp5y6OC3UcvPd2ZI_FhvFvUeIYhN_HnuJbMUdt-32W9LTL38gxP2Rq9TV_d5ZEBPKi0PEg_kaY=s0

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  28. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/12v8_IKum5ShsiYGPf1i37lhgGwh7sFdiVHXMwyr1oESkZpaJjrVcZiQ1AdZbFvCSWazfTcldeD9jZdiTIgOKpgtn4iqI0XAdq8=s0

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  29. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tl0w3UNrvp5dRZbx7qbcpRTtgbWsevkPRlmNbtBO4CEdHwcm-r8GsoeKIG2pvFahTaaqWNNmjmoMC_iSpTjVk6c3h0fNUWumfNk=s0

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  30. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_CgJmMgQWBbRLN630-2Ge_1B6Nrdn8QhjLEYwxlIVPl9r8m0HPGFZh3p-kviLqbLM9Kt9yfoJIEpljtdB_9SPEZ1MV8MBbMMtjU=s0

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  31. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WHqYl3NGzuexlkSegbqWenDyYD9H58IZgWtDF6cjENnPzDe48_QHpEU2T7BpS5dzLeZ1EyQmfRHN0sv4HQ_tb-seindgB1pvtak=s0

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  32. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/31jI9_BpDwvu6mOvOInNj-e1uYzch9bETUT4oL0TqL19NIu3tlaVes04KeYai05cj5cU-Rvzyul9Uijvv9nOlIDoM7ekqIVL6Qk=s0

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  33. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gMwnHG5wR6zAb8jgyODzg0-85VgixrHbDGbrYvgx47swOMgipbW4S4ZoQx9bHrUBVGeCVvICJhzaXTBOh3RZt1edKm_P_EMBHeA=s0

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  34. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4tVOprihT9VaVISvlbfYSGOaI1q9J28gmuF5QHOIKDLYyodvB49pGlc6BMSPGrTomnZtxTOL8yvKzOJsuQes4jIDSeYcZKtezW8=s0

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  35. I'm not supposed to be releasing images and such regarding the newest development design of Atmos, however I guess to showcase how just, old, for a lack of a better word YouMe's design is, here's an image of the work in progress profile page. The NavBar is immensely incomplete and doesn't use the exact themeing I have planned yet, but it's not important currently.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/k9N3ESJPR1h1FY-b1r8GDigiNMFLK3pgcQxwSQIs4g2uHvhTh0HiEO-NLlhTaubvUnQK4iyrkD4BN5Xe6ioIgRT5wOVjvwRt9Hw=s0

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  36. The design is no where near final and has a lot of changes to work on

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  37. I like their app, hopefully they can impliment sharing from other apps at some point.

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  38. DL Keur I didn't mean for me. I've found what I'm doing. I just meant to reply to the "why screenshots". And those might also sway me one way or another. But pretty much done with the 'try everything' phase of this.

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  39. There's nothing wring with using off the shelf social software, there are benefits. I do the same, with my site and it works great. The problem with from scratch is all the unforseen bugs and security flaws that don't have years of testing to find, or multiple communities/sites finding the problems.

    I think it's great Youme.social is using moosocial, there's some trust there.
    youme.social - Youme.social

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  40. Openbook is what I recommend personally. My site's just a passion project, theirs is profesionally made and has important backers.

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  41. They're also working on a G+ import tool.

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  42. Alex OpenBook does look promising, but it really depends on how many people end up landing there.

    I don’t know anything about the backend of YouMe. As a user, it really does have a lot of the same functionality as G+. My problem with that platform is that it doesn’t seem like many people are using it.

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  43. I think a lot of the problem is that for those looking for communities, it was a bit late off the mark.

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  44. Alex Every website has developers, some are in house and some our outsourced to get the job done. And yes, its no secret the site that exists is by Moosocial, however they know their business and are very reactive to any changes I want made.

    All I will say is that when the site officially launches on the 5th of March [at this stage, unless there is any delay], it will make heads turn.

    in the end, people will join a site that they feel comfortable with. Whether its MeWe, Pluspora, Minds, YouMe Social or any other one, it will be up to the G+ers who make that final decision.

    Make the final decision where to go after the 5th of March :)

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  45. Julie Wills you’re absolutely right. It was late and they really could benefit from a louder megaphone. That being said, it is one of the very few platforms that offers the ability to create and run private communities.

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  46. "it's certainly better than the other platforms I mention"....
    As we teach children to ask, "fact or opinion"?
    Thanks for the screen shot, it looks nice and neat.
    If there are 398 people on it, and 12 million on Brand B,
    which is "certainly better" by some reasonable criterion?
    That said, the timing has it so it launches just as G+ is deprecated to being inoperable, to learn more or sign up. And 99% of G+ers will be just settling into shared new spaces.

    Just saying, in life nothing is "certainly better" than anything else for everybody. This looks nice. But seriously, for many who have been busy for weeks to months, with "takeout", exploring new blog homes, and watching where the communities are going, and photographers, and bloggers, and friends.... Just: Good luck, and enjoy! And I hope the vast majority of expats are happy in new homes, with some creature comforts and familiar names/faces/features. Most will need more than one home to maintain contact with past friends & favorite places. YMMV - I don't see anything "hugely better" here, than other options. But that's me (a social scientist who teaches logic, research, and the importance of recognizing that everybody's needs & likes are different.)

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  47. Just to answer some of the questions raised.

    We have unlimited bandwidth and storage. I triple checked this with the hosting company concerned, and they have placed that in writing. And to be honest, since moving to them, we have experienced ZERO issues with either bandwidth or storage.

    In terms of funding, it is being done by myself exclusively with a 6 digit budget. So no Venture Capital involved who want a return on their money, no "secret" backers, none of any of that.

    Expenses?

    Surprisingly not much and that includes the new site that will be launched. When the site was launched in beta mode, we had some hiccups with bandwidth and despite telling the then members that it wasn't a financial issue, a number of them volunteered to do a gofundme campaign. [I said thank you, but no. Its a hosting issue not a financial one].

    Basically, the proverbial buck stops with me. I took this on and will keep it going. I have the finances behind me to do so, even if it goes over my allocated budget for the site.

    Further, I am online about 16 hours a day fielding questions, liaising with the developers, participating in the comments and posts etc. I am basically approachable by any YouMe Social member, no matter what it is about. I am even giving relationship advise to one member.

    Ask yourselves this - when have you, as a social media user, last seen the owners of other social media platforms? Let alone, had an open door policy so you can approach them?

    Will I take on VCs or any financial backers in the future? The answer is no. To do that, it means giving control over the direction of the site and by doing that, it will move away from what I want to achieve.

    I want YouMe Social to be a member driven site, thus why everything I implement is based on what the members want. Of course, some are not achievable right now and some are totally outlandish, but it is the members' site so I listen and seek their advice.

    What I am building is literally a new kind of social media platform. Whether I achieve my goal or not, will depend on the members, ie, you.

    This is not a money making venture for me. Its, for me, a community service to the vast Google+ers who trusted Google and got let down by its imminent closure. Its my way of repaying all those Googler+ers who over the years have not only +1'd my posts and shared them [and vice versa], but also heard me complain about my own personal issues, the friendships I have built here, the connections I have made.

    Google+ was my online family and home, and thats being demolished not only for me but every single one of you as well.

    YouMe Social is my new home and hopefully those that join, will also make it their home ... especially after the new site is launched in 2 weeks time.

    A bit about YouMe Social.

    Its based in Greece and the servers are in Frankfurt Germany. We are governed by EU law regarding privacy and GDPR.

    My own ideology and beliefs are embedded in YouMe Social. What are they?

    No porn, no spamming, no trolling, no harrassment or intimidation, no hate speech - by anyone. If anyone dares to post child porn, YouMe Social's policy is to forward all the details straight to Europol for investigation. This is a non negotiable stance of the site. [Why Europol and not, say the FBI? Because Europol is based in the EU where the site is located.IF Europol requests me to forward the material to another agency, I will do that.]

    My pledge to all YouMe Social members is that if any of the above occurs, it will be dealt with within 12 hours of being brought to our attention or discovered by us, which ever happens first.

    I have a group of moderators assisting with the site, and this group will be expanded as the site expands.

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  48. I myself am non-racist, and I also do not judge people on their sexuality, religion, politics or anything. I accept everyone for who they are. The site is the same unless they break the above-mentioned no-go stuff.

    I hope that answers most of your questions. However, if you have any questions, just ask.

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  49. Jamez Frondeskias
    Man I wasn't expecting an actual response from you on the matter.

    Either way I guess it's time for my discussion. Your 6 figure budget seems wasted by the use of a platform like MooSocial. The Atmos developers and I are purely volunteer workers and have made 0 profit on the donations we are doing.

    So my first question on the situation is what's the plan for the website design. I, as a web designer for a rival product, find yours to not be quite as "modern" as ours. What is your exact plan on this going forward? Will you learn it yourself or will you hire someone or?

    Along with that, how secure is the site? Has there been any exploit discoveries yet?

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  50. Alex the actual design? Not announcing to anyone till its launched.

    The less people that know, the better .. after all, its a surprise :)

    I am not tech savvy thus why I am paying for it to be built to my specifications. I know what G+ers want and what I want.

    And secure wise? Very.

    As you yourself would know, even Google isn't 100% secure ... after all, they had 5 million gmail accounts hacked earlier this decade. So the site is as secure as feasibly possible.

    Those building the site have a lot of experience on building a secure site.

    And, why surprised I responded?

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  51. Very few platform creators have responded. I've only had the Openbook creators respond to me so far.

    Anyways, I hope the new design turns out to be modern and easy access to consumers. Atmos is looking into all sorts of tests and designs to make our site accessible to everyone through multiple themes, new more modern navigation themes, and a work in progress way to save data for users and stop our server's storage from being full of repeated items

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  52. Alex What you saw me do here, is what I do on YouMe Social every few minutes or so, 16 hours a day. Its something I will continue to do as long as I can reach a keyboard LOL [till death do us part?].

    You'll find that many are building sites to attract G+ers so they can build up their sites to make money. So they have little time to interact. I could be wrong, but thats what I have seen from the umpteen sites I am on. You rarely hear or see them.

    The new design is modern, its refreshing and its going to be ... whats the word for it? .... homely?

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  53. I can vouch for the fact that Jamez Frondeskias does live on YouMe. Every time I log in he’s posted something new. The handful of times I’ve tagged him over there he’s responded within minutes unless there was a time zone issue when he’s been sleeping.

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  54. John Ward sometimes I wonder if i actually do get sleep lol ;)

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  55. Alex The platform as it is is easy to navigate for all devices -- computer, tablet, laptop, and smartphone. I know, because I've tested it on all of those. If you mean you want it smartphone-centric ONLY, then, well, then I'll be gone from it in a nanoflash. And, personally, "consumers" is NOT a term for "Netizen". "Consumer" is how Faceplant and Google see us. I ain't no "consumer". Sorry you are.

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  56. Jamez Frondeskias I think you mean 'homey'. :D

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  57. DL Keur LOL .... anything that makes someone comfortable :D

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  58. DL Keur
    Consumer is a general term I use for those who "Consume" media.

    Also Mobile First designs are the epitome of a failed product. Mobile accounts for around 25% of all browsing in the world. They're a minority compared to Desktop users.

    Make separate designs for the two is how Atmos does it. Harder on the frontend developers (or developer, in our case as I'm the only frontend developer currently) but leaves a more satisfied consumer.

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  59. Alex See? There's the diff. I build 'media'.

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  60. Jamez Frondeskias very true - anyone tried penetrating through MeWe to actually get a meaningful answer from them? I got very vague answers about the placeholder Pages they had created.

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  61. Danie van der Merwe I know. How I cope when YouMe Social gets really big, is another issue ... but thats another story down the track.

    But at least, as you know, I am always there and always available [when not sleeping]

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  62. I'm also always available for discussion. Open discussion between competitors leads to an overall better product on both behalfs. Discussing concepts and how both parties can and will execute it. Resulting better performance, more user choice, etc...

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  63. When I first found out about YouMe.social, I had been investigating several sites as potential landing spots. I wasn't enamored with any until I spent some time on YouMe.social.

    To help myself and others better understand just what this site was all about, I created a Q&A and tagged the owner.
    To my surprise, within hours Jamez Frondeskias replied...I was very impressed indeed!

    Since this time, I've continued to question Jamez and he's been nothing but forthcoming and excited to provide us plussers with a new home. He is what he says he is, and his motives are pure as the driven snow when it comes to YouMe.social.

    He sincerely wants to give us Plussers a new home and is willing to put so much on the line to this end.
    Jamez DOES have a plan in place and he's relentless with seeing it to fruition. Another very impressed indeed~!

    As I DO know what's coming down the pipes in March, Jamez is right on the mark when he says it'll make heads turn.

    I've been so Impressed with the entirety of what YouMe.social is, It's leadership and scaling for the future, that I actually wanted to be part of Jamez's team in whatever capacity.

    Some of you know me, I've created several very successful coms on G+, as well as modded so many others. When the opportunity arose to help Jamez, I never thought twice. I knew I wanted to be part of this.


    My original Q&A with Jamez
    plus.google.com - I recently joined Youme.social and had some basic questions I wanted answere...

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  64. Alex Never a bad idea to open dialogue in private with competitors alternative social site owners ;)

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  65. al m thanks for sharing that interview. I missed it when it was first posted. Lots of good information there and I do have to say that I respect the fact that he does give straight answers regarding things like hate speech.

    Some kind of explanation about the financial goals for the site or what kind of business model they plan on adopting might help alleviate the lingering skepticism. I know that right now Jamez is funding it himself, but will he keep doing that indefinitely? Is the site a business or a charity? Nothing wrong with either answer, but the current ambiguity does make people nervous because it raises questions about exactly what will or won’t be done when they reach a point of needing money. I realize that it’s not really fair to ask those kind of questions of any new business and I hope this isn’t coming across as some kind of ultimatum. I bring it up because I have seen people cite that issue specifically as a reason they didn’t want to join.

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  66. John Ward It's not my place to answer questions about the business model. Surely you understand?
    No matter what site plussers end up adopting, there will always be the question of longevity. G+ has taught us that, at least ;)

    This being said, Jamez is a pretty smart business person!

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  67. al m yeah, I totally understand and agree. Like I said it’s not really fair to ask those questions of any business.

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  68. John Ward business or charity.

    What I have done so far, is ask members what features they want on the site, and then provided it was reasonable, I funded those features to be implemented.

    Any money that YouMe Social makes will be used to develop more features the members want. Any funds that aren't spent, will be given to various charities that members and YouMe Social decide on.

    However I will be blunt and honest. Running the site isn't expensive, so even if YouMe Social doesn't make money, I will continue to fund it.

    I could easily fund it for the next couple of hundred years and still have left over funds.

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  69. Compared to competing platforms that are either new or still under development I'll side with Jamez Frondeskias this time. At least I've never seen him wasting time criticizing competitors and instead has been focusing his efforts in improving his network. He even openly admitted that he is not a developer himself and made no secret that his network is built on top of MooSocial but he has proven that he is able to bring changes to his site. I think if I have enough money I'd have done this myself. Steve Jobs wasn't even a computer science expert when he founded Apple.

    I see nothing wrong with using off the shelf script to create a new network for us. For me it's not much different from Pluspora which is one of many Diaspora pods out there (though to Pluspora's credit, being in the fediverse allows the users to connect to other pods and other federated social network). If I were to give the example of the wrong way of using off the shelf software, I'll ask you to look at G+ Rewritten.

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  70. Halfey Halphstein thanks.

    Ummmm .. G+ Rewritten? Never heard of it

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  71. Jamez Frondeskias It's actually a community made by some kids on Mighty Networks. When this community was first founded it was mentioned several times by some (kids?) trying to pass it off as a G+ like social network developed from scratch. Mighty Networks itself is "OK" by my standard but this G+ Rewritten is full of RPs, memes and shitposts that even I myself who often shitpost don't feel comfortable with it. It recently changed its name to Goggle++ and even changed the logo to avoid legal problems. Again, I think using Mighty Networks community is fine but the community owners have no control of the source code so they can't customize it much other than changing theme colors let alone fix the bugs.

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  72. Danie van der Merwe The creators of MeWe were actually on G+ answering questions a couple of months ago. Not sure if they're monitoring the situation as much as they were when this started.

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