The new social network OpenBook starts the alpha to 8. March. On 1 April the beta starts! All contents of Google+ can be imported probably. There will be Community's from the outset.
Here the official YouTube channel of OpenBook! Check this out!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUAZjrj85EoucWDNM2JZtOw
Here you can register for the beta:
https://www.openbook.social/en/home
If you want to be part of the project from 8.3. onwards, you can do so by supporting the project with a donation of 10€.
You can find more information here:
https://medium.com/openbook-org/openbook-post-campaign-update-3-c95734e1f99d
Oh, yeah, I forgot. Everything according to the European Data Protection Act.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUAZjrj85EoucWDNM2JZtOw
Here the official YouTube channel of OpenBook! Check this out!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUAZjrj85EoucWDNM2JZtOw
Here you can register for the beta:
https://www.openbook.social/en/home
If you want to be part of the project from 8.3. onwards, you can do so by supporting the project with a donation of 10€.
You can find more information here:
https://medium.com/openbook-org/openbook-post-campaign-update-3-c95734e1f99d
Oh, yeah, I forgot. Everything according to the European Data Protection Act.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUAZjrj85EoucWDNM2JZtOw
Benjamin M. Much better, thanks ;-)
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Support OpenBook on Indiegogo and get access to the alpha (8.3.19):
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Pass, I only use social media on desktops.
ReplyDeleteLaura Ess Just a little patience. The desktop version is coming soon too 😉
ReplyDeleteAs much as I was looking forward to Open Book, they seem to have left launching to the last minute in respect to G+ closure. There still isn't much information available, if at all, on how Communities will operate on the platform. How are we supposed to get members to sign up to something, when there is nothing to show them. Also deciding to delay Web Base launch is also a concern, when adding formatted content via mobile, isn't very easy generally, even on established platforms.
ReplyDeleteAsh UK I think the quick end of G+ surprised OpenBook. Probably it was even intended by Google. In my opinion, Google will launch a new network, and wants everyone to realize before that there are no alternatives elsewhere. And so that these alternatives do not emerge, Google closes even earlier. I think it is a strong achievement of programmers to create a new social network of this quality in a short time. I am excited and happy to support the efforts of OpenBook. Have some patience, it's worth it. Otherwise we will remain dependent on Google and Facebook.
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Benjamin M. Google has lost the goodwill of its G+ users by the way they have conducted themselves in regards to the closure, they may or may not decide to launch another network, which is neither here nor there. As all that will happen long after G+ closes. The concern is with what to do now, communities have taken years to build up, trying to transfer to somewhere else, takes time. My original point was that Open Book is giving G+ Community members less than a month to transfer people over to something that there still isn't any detailed information on. I would also add, I support what Open Book is trying to do, but in reference to G+ closure it seems too late off the mark. It truly is a lost opportunity, as G+ Communities and Collections are unique in the social networking environment. Nobody has tried to really make an effort to accommodate the exodus from G+
ReplyDeleteThere is a large number of G+ members on MeWe Ash UK
ReplyDeleteRob Watkins yeah I know, but their communities/groups are something to be desired! It's like hashtag overload! I just can't believe they don't think it's a good idea to have simple things as categories and their posting public/private is overly complicated. They also have been slow in adding enhancements which their spokesman said would be happening, but haven't materialised. One of pet peeves is that their FAQ are so lacking too.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree, respectfully, they have have been good at adding new features, based on my experiences.
ReplyDeleteRob Watkins yes they have been adding new features, but I am solely commenting on Groups/communities. Rather than general features being added to MeWe as a whole.
ReplyDeleteI'll most likely opt for OpenBook. Looks like they are doing just the right thing, and that it's developed and hosted in Europe, under European jurisdiction, is a plus too.
ReplyDeletePer Siden do you already have an account there?
ReplyDeleteDiana Studer no, not yet, but I have chipped in, whatever happens I hope they succeed. The public beta open in March, so don't expect much until then. Good be good though.
ReplyDeleteIs there a limit on communities ?
ReplyDeleteSo once the beta starts, we barely have 24h :/
ReplyDeleteI have seen their code on git or some site like that.. and nope.. for me the answer is: thnx but no.
ReplyDeleteMartina Neumayer where?
ReplyDeleteBenjamin M. There is no evidence suggesting that Google will open a new social network, and the way they have handled the shutdown of the consumer version of Google+ is pretty compelling evidence that they do not plan to do so. If they wanted to create a new network, it would have made sense to announce that and provide migration from Google+ rather than pulling the plug on Google+ leaving a body of devoted users hanging. Also, there was no compelling reason to scrap Google+ and build something new given the quality of Google+. That's especially true in light of the fact that Google will continue to support Google+ for G Suite customers.
ReplyDeleteMartina Neumayer I don't believe you. Can you give details? What source can you name? What exactly do you not like about the code? Is the code worse than with alternatives? Facts please, no fake.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with such a late launch, is that G+ will be gone by the time people want to import all of their stuff. By April 1st, G+ will absolutely be gone. Google already mentioned the site will be broken by then, with any/all APIs essentially disconnected.
ReplyDeleteThantiK The absence of the APIs will not prevent Google+ from working.
ReplyDeleteJohn Skeats it will, however, keep you from importing anything from Google Plus
ReplyDeleteThantiK That doesn't mean Google+ isn't working. It only limits migration options to using Takeout data.
ReplyDeleteI'm doubt OpenBook will be mature enough from day one for a community seeking to migrate from Google+. But it's still worth supporting the effort, given a little more time OpenBook could turn out great.
ReplyDeletePer Siden Google+ wasn't great on Day 1 (which was when I joined it), but it was pretty darned good. Wherever people go, they will find some shortcomings compared to Google+, so wherever a mature Google+ community migrates to it won't be as good as Google+. We all have to accept that and find solutions that both are reasonably good and offer promise of improving to meet our needs.
ReplyDeleteI have just heard direct from the founder (Joel Hernández) that soon after the release of OpenBook translations of the App into other languages (for example German) will come.
ReplyDeleteOriginal message (18.02.2019):
"Yep! First version will be english only but we’ll start working in translation as soon as we launch."
John Skeats I agree, but there's also the matter of longevity to consider. An all new service has a bit to prove.
ReplyDeleteI have big hopes for OpenBook, but I'm not taking anything for granted.
ThantiK That's not a big problem. With existing tools many of us have already downloaded our G+ content onto devices, and some have already uploaded to Blogger/Wordpress. For those who have content to keep, you think we trust Google re: announced dates?
ReplyDeleteDownloading with existing tools has been straightforward. Uploading these files onto Openbook is not a biggie.
At the moment I'm all in on Diaspora, but OpenBook seems very promising. I think I'll throw some money in for early access.
ReplyDeleteMichael Warburton That's great! I think it's for a good cause.
ReplyDeleteIf you have donated something, you can reserve your username, test the Alpha as early as March 8th and get access to the OpenBook developer community on Slack, as well as to the features-and ideas-page on https://openbook.canny.io. Very interesting what will be published there. The developers are very close to the community. Founder Joel Hernández writes back personally, sometimes internally from minutes. Very sympathetic!
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Ash UK So, in your opinion, Openbook, which has been in development for years, should have paced itself to match G+'s closure AND in mid-December cut its development cycle by an additional 4 months when G+ decided it was going to close early. A cut that would have literally left them with less than half their remaining development time.
ReplyDeleteDo you understand how unrealistic that expectation is?
And no, there is not a lot to see on communities except the video that was released last week, but social media sites don't preview features until they are at least in beta. So again, unrealistic expectations.
Maybe Openbook will not be perfect or ready on day 1. Maybe the whole network will be crap for years to come. But there is NOTHING saying that you have to join it on day 1 or even at all.
You can download your G+ data and import it whenever. So with that in mind, keep your options open. Maybe, just maybe, Openbook will be awesome. =)
Matt Moore no that is not my point at all! The whole purpose of this community is discussion on mass migration from G+ to another home. Like all my previous comments, I am focused on G+ Communities and possible solutions to a new home! A post was made suggesting Open Book as a solution to this and my comments are based on that suggestion!
ReplyDeleteI don't expect Open Book to make any changes to their development plans! It is up to them to decide whether or not they want to attract migrating G+ users & the methods they use is up to them.
My point once again is that Open Book is not an immediate solution for G+ Community transfer.
Ash UK we're all migrating somewhere since G+ is closing, so in a way mass migration is not strictly limited to communities moving somewhere else in bulk. Many users are simply looking for someplace nice and safe where they can fill their feeds with diverse and interesting topics to read and interact with.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with your conclusion regarding groups, but I believe any ideas for places to check out are welcome in this group even if they currently aren't a viable destination for certain communities.
Ash UK we're all migrating somewhere since G+ is closing, so in a way mass migration is not strictly limited to communities moving somewhere else in bulk. Many users are simply looking for someplace nice and safe where they can fill their feeds with diverse and interesting topics to read and interact with.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with your conclusion regarding groups, but I believe any ideas for places to check out are welcome in this group even if they currently aren't a viable destination for certain communities.
Benjamin M. Your "believe or not believe" is for me irrelevant, to be honest. You can (so I have done) go through some search engines and search for some infos about topic: "what is used for the portal coding, on which ide engines is the code based, etc.". And you will see for yourself what's going on there.
ReplyDeleteThe second thing is, that some days ago (a week or something like that) one person already mentioned about it here in this community, together with the links, examples and so on. That's why I know about the case. I was just searching and found some extra additional informations. And yes.. Those ide's are "shitty ones". One not updated as it should be, another with a few problems/issues with the overall efficiency at the both "server and client side" as well.
That's it.
Martina Neumayer These are at least a few details and not just assertions. The next question is what does OpenBook look like compared to other social networking alternatives? It's a startup, mistakes are made. The question is: can they get it under control? Nobody knows that yet. In any case, I prefer a good open source network with a few bugs to Facebook. What do you suggest as an alternative? Where do you like the code? That's a serious question.
ReplyDeletePer Siden I find this exchange so interesting because I founded one of the earlier large communities here when G+ had no ‘communities’ capability.
ReplyDeleteWe started with the humble hashtag and resharing it. People who resonated with the topic started using the # and started getting to know each other. We evolved to using a Page and finally when G+ introduced community” we “moved” there, and continued growing. Note: there were key functions compromised when we did
Before going any further - from the beginning Community was clearly a network of PEOPLE. Functionality made it more or less) convenient for this group of people to communicate with each other.
Communities thrive on social media without any capability called ‘community though having a directory of such uniformly organized groups may help those joining the platform to discover specific groups.
How do I know some communities will survive G+? I see the some previously G+ groups of peeps already emerging and active in MeWe groups, Pluspora using aspects and FB private or public groups. There is the other option of setting up Blogger or Wordpress but these options are more unwieldy.
Ash UK continuing a community does not depend on platform capabilities or whether historical content can be downloaded. These core groups of people who share interests make sure they remain connected while they establish a new home together. Downloading existing G+ community content will save procedural time and history but it’s not essential.
IMO I wouldn’t worry about determining which platform is best right now because we are all almost out of time. The priority is ensuring we have non G+ contact info or have reconnected beyond G+ with as many of our circles as possible before the G+ sun sets. (I wouldn’t bet on Google adhering to announced dates before yanking the rug.)
Benjamin M. No matter what it is, startup or not, there is no place for such and some "child time" mistakes when the product goes to the public use.
ReplyDeleteFor that are alpha tests, sometimes also a beta ones.
But this is not the clue of my comments.
Well.. As I saw the developing is slow going. Okay, some bugs are fixed now, some not yet. It is understandable because they are only few ppl working on the code.
As for the ui design.. Hmm.. Looks similar to the other portals like g+, mewe, fb etc. They are not so many differences.. Just some small details as icons, emojis, colors, the elements placement and so on.
Some features works fine, some are not yet available (you have only an info "coming soon").
We well see what comes as the final, stable version. Hopefully something nice that we all can use on a daily basis.
Okay.. I have been trying lots of portals some time ago. Mastodon, diaspora, reddit.. You know, all this entire list of them.
And honestly none of them is so nice as the G+ was before the 2014.
For me, for my purposes the closest one is mewe.
But, I don't need all of the features. I need as follows: privacy options to be nicely done. Groups where as an admin I can easily manage all of the content and users. Some chat options. The content (posts and comments sorted by hand(or by customizable inputs like date, newest at the top). A nice search engine build in. Video and gif auto playback off mode. Login with the 2FA or U2F/UFA support.
And on top of that the usability.
Read: nice done ui with the dark mode available. And of course all that in both variants.. for pc and for mobile.
And one more thing.. Some data import/export option. (backup, restore etc).
Nothing more than that.
Martina Neumayer That's exactly why I don't understand your problem. The alpha starts on 8.3. and the beta on 1.4. So you think it's "child time" if such errors occur before the alpha? That makes no sense. It would be constructive to point out the bugs to OpenBook and possibly even help to solve them. But that's obviously not your intention. You are simply bad-mouthing the young project without proposing a solution or offering an alternative. Here I have to doubt your intentions.
ReplyDeleteMartina Neumayer You can reach the founder of OpenBook via this mail address. He will certainly be happy about constructive criticism. 😉
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Benjamin M. Both alpha and beta are some time ago already launched. The closed one. I am in both.
ReplyDeleteAlso I am on git, github and such places where all (lot's of) developers are too.
Bug reporting here? Hahah.. Thnx but no. They are much better places for that than some random community with random ppl on g+ So.. No worries about that part please.
Wanna join and add some helpful things? Here you can have the chance..
https://github.com/OpenbookOrg/openbook-org-www/commits/master
https://github.com/OpenbookOrg
And btw.. please read, learn something about the Vue, Diango based developement for the future.
GreetZ! :)
Martina Neumayer Thank you for your comments. I am not a programmer. But I don't think other social networks are perfect either, do I? The OpenBook staff is limited, so are the funds. So I'd like a little more understanding instead of bad-mouthing the project. Of course, your criticism is good and important in itself. OpenBook is at an early stage and has good approaches. I like to give them a chance. If you know of a better social network, please let me know. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteBenjamin M. It is not any bad-mouthing. It is just a comment. Nothing more than that ;)
ReplyDeleteMartina Neumayer Just for your information. On GitHub you find not the actual code atm...
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Just for the record.. I know that. They moved to git since last year.
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Benjamin M. Sadly for me it shows only the "404".
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