If we do not manage to find a single ideal replacement for Google Plus (which seems very likely), what would be the...
If we do not manage to find a single ideal replacement for Google Plus (which seems very likely), what would be the maximum number of social media services that you would consider using as a replacement?
If you have any specific requirements or thoughts, please feel free to use the comments.
If you have any specific requirements or thoughts, please feel free to use the comments.
I've always opened myself to social media platforms whenever I get the chance (I was in fact the person responsible in introducing facebook to my co-workers back in 2004 when everybody else was still on myspace and friendster). I have no problem maintaining my presence at more than 5 places at a time but maybe not more than 10.
ReplyDeleteMy transition will include fb for groups, maybe twitter to help, and at least one small site to keep in touch with some friends and particular interests.
ReplyDelete1 maybe 2 others. Good storage, an app would be nice. Both a main stream and something similar to collections...i think. But I'm open to change as long as someone will hold my hand and show me how... 😂 (that's a joke, by the way.)
ReplyDeleteCoincidentally, I run a polling com on G+. I'll share.
ReplyDeleteI'll use Twitter for posting memes and Dreamwidth for posting articles. I'll focus on these two, unless Mewe opens up to the outside world, then I'll use that as a G+ replacement.
ReplyDeleteTry out MeWe
ReplyDeleteIf MeWe made my public post searchable and externally linkable, it could replace G+ for me, technically. Right now, the fact that G+ will disappear, is truly harrowing and it has turned out to be very hard to find a good replacement, and even harder to rebuild the set of connections similar to what I have on G+. Google has no idea how damaging their decision is.
ReplyDeleteIf I can't get MeWe or Pluspora to work for me then I'll probably stop trying social or go to Reddit, where I pretty much only lurk now.
ReplyDeleteI can't afford time lost on 2 social media. 1 is enough.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal I'm thinking they don't care
ReplyDeleteEveryone needs to realize Google Plus will peter out well before the August 2019 deadline.
ReplyDeleteDo your research then make decisions. If you are wrong, you can switch things up.
Keep moving forward, regardless.
Embrace this situation and realize you control what's happening. Turn it towards your advantage and keep having fun :)
Three services I already use: FB for social-with-friends (and some G+ refugees who are friending me there); Twitter mainly for politics; and Flickr for photography and photo group sharing, particularly since it's been acquired by SmugMug.
ReplyDelete"Replacement" is difficult to define; I already had a Twitter account but I think I spend more time reading now than before.
ReplyDeleteI've tried MeWe, but it's far from ready to be a replacement for more than a small part of what I want.
Some things I spent time on G+ I'll probably not replace with online activities but with offline.
So the only replacement so far is Instagram where I've started to post.
I just can not get over the closure. I am angry. All people who have groups, pages, and numerous collections, etc. should be outraged. I know I am. I was never a person to SHARE other peoples posts like the masses did. I spent hundreds of hours finding all my own music and pictures over the years. I want all my posts downloaded to keep them all. Can I do this. ????? I never pushed the shared button on my thousands of posts...so I can't even do it that way.. I joined WeMe..It was talked about so much,,, but there is nothing really going on there and few people,. I have FB but even that is boring lately. I think thousands have left there too. The whole social media thing has gone to hell. Thanks for nothing Google..
ReplyDeleteZero. If G+ goes I will just have one less social media. Hell, I may even go outside to play. Talk to my kids even.
ReplyDelete(OK, the last bit may be a bit extreme).
What I really will regret is Communities. For what I've seen, I havn't found any social media service which is so interactive except closed groups FB ... that I would like not to be pushed to use ! ;-(
ReplyDeleteOne or a maximum of two... I already created a twitter account (I mostly use G+ as a news-aggregator), but I see that twitter is not the right tool for everyone so I might consider a second service.
ReplyDeleteInitial facile response was 'what no zero option?' as not really a big user of this 'social' stuff. Have a twitter account, used probably twice in the last year. Apart from that, mostly the odd blog and one reborn specific message board but even that has petered out for me in terms of interest.
ReplyDeleteA few of the groups I am in here are talking about various options but after having a look at mewe and minds (2 which have been touted which I do not feel comfortable with for various reasons some of which may not be fully rational but hey its my instinct) I might follow to something in the 'federated' side. If it is not too much hassle to set up. I have enjoyed G+ because it grouped a few things I was interested in. No burning desire to try to duplicate that for me. So will vote 1, just in case.
G+🈚🉑替代！
ReplyDeleteRight now, I'm considering MeWe, Pluspora, and Minds -- none of which, I should note, I'd even heard of before the current crisis. I'm also thinking of opening an Instagram, where I'd simply post photographs of my LinkedIn posts, along with actual web links (where needed -- say, to my online reviews) in the captions.
ReplyDeleteThat would suggest I'd open four accounts (in addition to my LinkedIn), but it'll probably be three at most, and, eventually, I'll shake it down to two.
al m On the schedule question, we've generally been suggesting oct-dec 2018 for info gathering, jan-may 2019 for decision, data migration, & move, and jun-aug 2019 for patch-up & rebuild.
ReplyDeleteI expect most organised groups to be substantively off G+ in the mar-may 2019 period.
Steve Vasta Links in Instagram captions are not clickable, unfortunately. The only place you can have a working link is in your profile, which makes Instagram problematic for sharing posts.
ReplyDeleteBodhipaksa also Instagram is now owned by Facebook, and I believe that the creators of Instagram recently left the company. By all accounts, Facebook is in the process of making Instagram be like Facebook in terms of advertising, data mining, and abusive privacy policies.
ReplyDeleteIn theory I would use multiple platforms. In practice, I have already found that I will devolve heavily to whichever platform (of the ones with which I choose to set up accounts) has the most usable Android app. Right now I painfully miss having a fixed abode and my desktop computer, where I could easily leave multiple sites open day and night!
ReplyDeleteSo far it looks like MeWe can, with a bit of tweaking, serve to replace both my G+ communities and collections. I've been lucky enough that almost all my active members have come over and joined me on MeWe. With Zoom, YouTube, and MeWe I think I'll survive.
ReplyDeletePeter Maranci I have no problem with that, because I don't post anything "private" to any of these pages. My problem with F******k is or was, simply, the cumulative mass hysteria around it, which made me reflexively draw back.
ReplyDeleteOTOH, Bodhipaksa makes a good point. I thought I'd seen clickable links in IG captions, but apparently I was mistaken. I suppose I could include the URL and suggest people cut and paste, but I know people are lazy.... ;-)
Steve Vasta If you access Instagram on the web then links are clickable. But they aren't in the native app. Most people resort to asking people to visit a link in their profile, which works, although you can only link to perhaps one thing at a time.
ReplyDeleteAll things pass away. It's been nice while it's lasted.
ReplyDeleteThe way I'm seeing things so far, looks like it's going to be MeWe and Pluspora taking the bulk of people. So that's probably where I'll end up trying things out.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm too busy to try other sites right now. So I'm going to give it another month to see where the people and platforms are going and doing.
1.Sylvie.Cécile Ségui Do NOT post unsubstantiated or poorly sourced rumours. Further instances will draw a ban. Comment removed. Last warning.
ReplyDeleteThere's no replacement for us for Google Plus. We will never be able to build a community of over 7 million followers again, anywhere. But, in all honesty, our interactions and engagements dropped off the map, anyway, so in all practical ways, it won't matter much. That said, I loved what we got from G+, and I will always miss it.
ReplyDeleteI'd answered "4", though the reality is that how those networks interact is far more important than the number. My earlier attempt at discussing that ... has somewhat blown up and will likely be a post.
ReplyDeleteBriefly (??!): I'm looking to make use of a set of tools which set focus on my own work in its own context, but reach out through other tools to others. I'm looking to maintain my own interactions in a centralised manner and hub, on my own systems.
That will be pushed out to a blog via GitLab, and syndicated via push tools to Mastodon (for microblogging) and likely longer-form content on Diaspora, Hubzilla, and/or other Federated networks. I'll likely also have automated posts to the subreddit I've maintained, and possibly Twitter. I don't see making use of Facebook at all, the platform, its leadership, and its results are abhorrent to me.
Most importantly: I'm looking at tools that support this level of federation and inter-exchange, and foster useful and progressive interaction. By "progressive", I mean discussion that progresses.
The number doesn't much matter if the systems support the dynamic I'm looking at. If I can help encourage others to use similar tools, so much the better.
1.Sylvie.Cécile Ségui
ReplyDeleteThey have quite obviously made an error as Google has made no such announcement of a Dec 2018 closing for Google+
I'd be very interested if they could provide an official source for their statement.
Edward Morbius The schedule sounds reasonable, yet for myself, I'll assume month after month beginning next year features will start disappearing from G+. I'll also assume any glitches that arise will be more an afterthought through time as they move their people to other projects.
ReplyDeleteIn all, yeah, they gave us a timeline, yet I don't trust the site to continue working well throughout.
Let's hope I'm wrong.
I'll include your schedule along with some warnings on the pinned post in the Meetup. I'm hoping Plussers get active with moving early in the new year.
My own schedule for transition should be largely completed by the end of January/February. This includes creating new groups, while also having the majority of advertising/marketing completed to let others know we exist.
I'll leave my profile and coms up til the bitter end for posterity (though not active) where Google can rest them in the setting sun.
Heather Wallace Ricrab Jill H
ReplyDeleteBeen on Minds since last year. Twitter off and on since 2007, that's it. There's no replacement for plus, as far as UI, but Minds has been a close facsimile as far as that goes. Hadn't been active on FB since 2012 and I finally removed my account in March. I'll be here until the ship goes down.
ReplyDeleteal m I doubt features will disappear from G+, so much as the ability to create new accounts, possibly new communities.
ReplyDeleteDisabling both of those will also probably help against the influx of spammers, somewhat.
Given that Google (at present) plan to continue G+ as a corporate platform, if anything there may be additional features rolled out in advance of that.
Edward Morbius A pity you abhore fb as you'd be invaluable as a resource on any number of issues.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal Google has no idea (nor cares) about a lot of things. Screw them and their politics.
ReplyDeleteal m Those voices are welcome on the free and non-evil parts of the Web. End discussion.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius Agreed, it's off topic. If you ever want a robust discussion about it though, feel free to PP me. Thanks again for all you folks here at Mass Migration are doing :)
ReplyDeleteI'm happy on MeWe for Groups. We have a very active political group with good moderator tools and live chat. The few complaints I have are being addressed in future upgrades. When using the web version, I can select the Group feed and see all the new posts for all groups in one feed. I like that feature. Or I can drill down and read one group at a time. Moderator tools are the bomb! I'm satisfied. Soon public posting will be an option and will definitely increase traffic.
ReplyDeleteI'll regrettably keep FB because of friends and sports events. Otherwise, I'd delete everything. I detest the lack of privacy, hacks and ads.
I'd use one for mostly public posts, and one for purely private posts. Really to me a blog is the all-private minus some people I block solution, and anything else would need to be the purely private to specific groups solution.
ReplyDeleteJill H Can you explain how public posting will work?
ReplyDeleteMeWe just added Pages. They are "public" in the sense that they can be discovered and followed by any MeWe user, without the page owner having to approve.
ReplyDeleteThe positive side is that it allows for news outlets, celebs, and other kinds of publishing to have a low effort presence.
However, neither Pages nor Page posts are externally linkable, nor does it look like they are crawled and hence not discoverable by search.
I refuse to use something that sounds like the title of a cartoon DVD parents buy to potty train their toddlers. That's what "MeWe" sounds like
ReplyDeleteBobbi Jo Woods I'd use any site that covers my technical / policy preferences, regardless of name. It's just a name, like facebook, twitter, snapchat, and what not.
ReplyDeleteI already said I've been on Minds for over a year (Spring 2017). It's a close proximity. I'm not joining yet another new social platform.
ReplyDeleteI tried Minds, but InfoWars.
ReplyDeleteYou have to find the topics you like, which you clearly didn't.
ReplyDeleteit's very diverse, in fact.
ReplyDeleteLina TREMISI I really don't understand why they wanted to kill communities - they have Blogger and have zero "group" or "community" offering to replace it. If I am to understand correctly, these features will be retained for businesses. My guess is they will crack down on identity and moderation in ways that individuals would not like.
ReplyDeleteI personally think they should have stuck with strong identity on the G+ platform - the influx of trolls and fake accounts really killed it for me and had me wasting hours of time moderating posts flagged a spam when 50% wasn't. Whatever they do for email why couldn't they do that for G+? Oh well, that ship has sailed.
I looked at Mastodon but was completely underwhelmed. Even the supposedly technology focused pod was full of junk. I'd rather stick to Steemit if they ever figure out groups. More likely I'll check out Sapien and embrace the beta-suck. For my own postings I'll probably just write markdown files synced to Github using stackedit.io and published via gitpages with links posted on Twitter for broadcast. For personal stuff I may stick with FB unless I rage quit, which could well happen.
Bobbi Jo Woods There was no getting away, since they paid to promote their posts. So either I also had to pay to be able to opt out, or walk away.
ReplyDeleteIt's only 1 block of boosted post content that rotates. It's really easy to scroll past 2 inches of content you don't like. Sorry you couldn't hang around - I see pages and pages of crap I disagree with on G+, Twitter, etc. but I'm not going to melt away from it. Stay in your safe bubble, I guess.
ReplyDeleteSimon Waddington What things are called often obscures what they are. G+ Communities, subreddits, and Usenet groups come to mind.
ReplyDeleteBobbi Jo Woods There are boatloads of "deplorables" at MeWe too, but I don't need to pay to avoid them there.
ReplyDeleteIMO, the block chain part of Minds may be their undoing, as the monetization leads to people trying to game or exploit it.
Lars Fosdal again, it doesn't cost anything. Period.
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