I agree with William Robison - it’s about the people. I’m on pluspora but I don’t know how to drive it, obviously. Several people I ‘follow’ here are also there but not active - I catch them on MeWe. But I’m persisting because there are things I like about what I’ve seen said about Friendica and Hubzilla. Just haven’t managed to try them out yet. I also have thoughts of longer posts that might, if I find I can do semi-regularly, lead to me starting a blog. But I’ve not got a handle on the size of posts that you can do on pluspora, and have no idea for hubzilla or friendica.
Friendica allows to use several profiles with different configurations, connects with Diaspora, twitter, blogger... more options to modify the appearance, allows to create groups, forums and many more options... homehack.nl - When to use Friendica over Diaspora* - HomeHack
Don McCollough try and try with some patience, while being aware that having more functions and configuration options can be more complex than Diaspora but once familiar is more comfortable to handle.
Some things are done in a similar way, others are different, others do not exist and nothing will be equal to G+.
MeWe is very closed, as you need to join groups to see the contents and don’t get general posts on your feeds. I think that this makes it harder to make new contacts. I do like the chat feature that is built in, as it helps open up the group with asides and quick questions that would otherwise be posts that could overwhelm the topic posts.
Diaspora is the opposite where everything is viewable, you just need to follow the right hashtags and hashtag away on your posts. This makes it very easy to meet new people with similar interests. Everything is open, so private groups and chats aren’t easy to do.
Michael Warburton You can choose to limit your posts to particular aspects (think Circles), or you can post publicly, as most people on Pluspora do.
+EveryoneElse Pluspora now has over 10,000 members, the vast majority of them G-Plussers, and there's nothing to stop you following and sharing with any of the other people on Diaspora*, Friendica, and Hubzilla. I've been there for about three months and have over 500 people in my Aspects, mainly just by following photographers.
The Tutorials are only 6 very easy-to-read pages (not including the Markdown reference), and there is separate Help on a number of topics. Read through these and you'll hit the ground running. Put a #help hashtag in your post and a number of us will come running.
If you want more than Diaspora* offers, join Friendica (or Hubzilla if you want to build a website or photo gallery). That way, you can not only follow and share to Friendica people, but to anyone on Diaspora* and Hubzilla, too.
I feel I should clarify my first statement, above. Every post you make on Diaspora*, Friendica, or Hubzilla, whether Public or not, is only seen by people who have requested it. They request it by putting you in an Aspect on Diaspora*, or by making you a Contact (Friendica, Hubzilla).
Stuart Bates Garry Knight If it is a public post, you can also see it by looking at the community stream (if you're on the same node as the author). I don't know if there's a way to see everything from every node with which yours is federating ("fire hose" mode), but theoretically if such a thing exists, and you caught it at just the right moment, that would also be an option.
Trevor Schadt I know that if you're following/sharing with someone, you'll see their content in your 'feed'. I've not yet found a firehose for all content there yet like I get with Mastodon though.
Don McCollough You can also see the "community" feed - at least you can on Friendica - where you'll see everything that's posted from anyone on your node.
Thanks for the correction, gentlemen. I was forgetting about the 'firehose'. On Diaspora* (pluspora), I see either posts from people in my Aspects or with the hashtags I follow (the Stream), or I see all posts pulled in by the server (Public activity). I've been a member of Friendica and Hubzilla for quite a while, but haven't yet had time to explore it in full. I assumed the streams worked the same way as on Diaspora*.
To answer the unanswerable question: Yes, it's "any good". Great for many. OK or blah for others. YMMV. I find it most congenial (laid back, with many options for audience and public/private controls) and with nice features for "framing" posts with "markdown" and preview editor (which often needs a refresh to see the full display). My favorite overall, thus far, next to G+ ("social") and Flickr (photography).
There are endless thoughts on the various "pods", but why not try Pluspora - you can always switch to another "pod" with more features or connections, and you can choose public posts and/or "aspects" (the model for "circles"). Pluspora has a very large and growing group of Plussers, and will start you off with 5 categories (# tags) you can choose to start your feed and be found by shared interest. A little extra work to comment (can't just + or emoji) and you can't edit existing posts. In sum.
MeWe also has refugee groups, and probably is more to the liking of phone-centered lifestyles with a lot of texting and chatting (including a for-fee invisible mode). There is a dedicated app, and lots of emojis, groups, activity. (For me, TMI!) And all within a "walled garden". But many will find it a non-Facebook facebook, easy and with a huge (and growing) population. Try this too, if it's for you.
There is the most and best information you can possibly find - right here. And also in the New World - #gplusrefugee tags and groups help ensure you'll find many, MANY from this "Old World" here. And many, MANY opinions about what is "any good", or even great. Ask 1000 people, you'll get 1000 answers on the good & bad & ugly.
Time to be mingling with others in the new arrivals tent, and to have our things in order here, prized possessions and contact info packed, and settling in elsewhere. Soon we'll all be watching "the big bang" and the end of a wonderful civilization. From somewhere. It's time to be exploring those somewheres, if not already satisfied with what you've found thus far. Pluspora is fantastic for some (though not as spiffy an interface as some would like and not G+). You can ask, but many have already left and cannot answer. People's needs and wants vary.
Good luck all in finding or improving new homes. There is life beyond. In many flavors.
In Friendica? Yes. When you see a post in your stream, there should be a folder icon with the mouse-over text of "Save to Folder." Click that, and a popup will appear where you can either type the name of a folder to save it to, or choose an already existing folder from the dropdown.
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I definitely prefer pluspora, but it's a matter of individual taste
ReplyDeleteI like the more lowkey atmosphere and the kinds of discussions I have seen there
If you want the general feel of (and communication with!) Diaspora but built in access to communities, try Friendica.
ReplyDeleteI find the people on Pluspora are more active. To me social media is more about the people. Less about the platform.
ReplyDeleteHubzilla also works with Diaspora and other services too
ReplyDeleteI agree with William Robison - it’s about the people. I’m on pluspora but I don’t know how to drive it, obviously. Several people I ‘follow’ here are also there but not active - I catch them on MeWe. But I’m persisting because there are things I like about what I’ve seen said about Friendica and Hubzilla. Just haven’t managed to try them out yet. I also have thoughts of longer posts that might, if I find I can do semi-regularly, lead to me starting a blog. But I’ve not got a handle on the size of posts that you can do on pluspora, and have no idea for hubzilla or friendica.
ReplyDeleteAlistair Langsford I don't believe any of those platforms have a post length limit (or, at least, not a practical one).
ReplyDeleteTrevor Schadt thanks...I might try friendica next. Hubzilla seems a bit mutch at the moment.
ReplyDeleteFriendica allows to use several profiles with different configurations, connects with Diaspora, twitter, blogger... more options to modify the appearance, allows to create groups, forums and many more options...
ReplyDeletehomehack.nl - When to use Friendica over Diaspora* - HomeHack
Julio Cova I may have to give it another try. The first attempt was not very good.
ReplyDeleteDon McCollough try and try with some patience, while being aware that having more functions and configuration options can be more complex than Diaspora but once familiar is more comfortable to handle.
ReplyDeleteSome things are done in a similar way, others are different, others do not exist and nothing will be equal to G+.
Ah! and reading the help section, believe me will make your life easier.
ReplyDeleteMeWe is very closed, as you need to join groups to see the contents and don’t get general posts on your feeds. I think that this makes it harder to make new contacts. I do like the chat feature that is built in, as it helps open up the group with asides and quick questions that would otherwise be posts that could overwhelm the topic posts.
ReplyDeleteDiaspora is the opposite where everything is viewable, you just need to follow the right hashtags and hashtag away on your posts. This makes it very easy to meet new people with similar interests. Everything is open, so private groups and chats aren’t easy to do.
Just a correction everything isn't completely open on Diaspora. You can post to specific aspects only, like Google+ circles.
ReplyDeleteMichael Warburton You can choose to limit your posts to particular aspects (think Circles), or you can post publicly, as most people on Pluspora do.
ReplyDelete+EveryoneElse
Pluspora now has over 10,000 members, the vast majority of them G-Plussers, and there's nothing to stop you following and sharing with any of the other people on Diaspora*, Friendica, and Hubzilla. I've been there for about three months and have over 500 people in my Aspects, mainly just by following photographers.
The Tutorials are only 6 very easy-to-read pages (not including the Markdown reference), and there is separate Help on a number of topics. Read through these and you'll hit the ground running. Put a #help hashtag in your post and a number of us will come running.
If you want more than Diaspora* offers, join Friendica (or Hubzilla if you want to build a website or photo gallery). That way, you can not only follow and share to Friendica people, but to anyone on Diaspora* and Hubzilla, too.
I feel I should clarify my first statement, above. Every post you make on Diaspora*, Friendica, or Hubzilla, whether Public or not, is only seen by people who have requested it. They request it by putting you in an Aspect on Diaspora*, or by making you a Contact (Friendica, Hubzilla).
ReplyDeleteGarry Knight if it a public post then it can be seen by anyone who searches for the Hashtag you have used, so there are two ways of finding posts.
ReplyDeleteStuart Bates Garry Knight If it is a public post, you can also see it by looking at the community stream (if you're on the same node as the author). I don't know if there's a way to see everything from every node with which yours is federating ("fire hose" mode), but theoretically if such a thing exists, and you caught it at just the right moment, that would also be an option.
ReplyDeleteTrevor Schadt I know that if you're following/sharing with someone, you'll see their content in your 'feed'. I've not yet found a firehose for all content there yet like I get with Mastodon though.
ReplyDeleteDon McCollough You can also see the "community" feed - at least you can on Friendica - where you'll see everything that's posted from anyone on your node.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the correction, gentlemen. I was forgetting about the 'firehose'. On Diaspora* (pluspora), I see either posts from people in my Aspects or with the hashtags I follow (the Stream), or I see all posts pulled in by the server (Public activity). I've been a member of Friendica and Hubzilla for quite a while, but haven't yet had time to explore it in full. I assumed the streams worked the same way as on Diaspora*.
ReplyDeleteTo answer the unanswerable question: Yes, it's "any good". Great for many. OK or blah for others. YMMV. I find it most congenial (laid back, with many options for audience and public/private controls) and with nice features for "framing" posts with "markdown" and preview editor (which often needs a refresh to see the full display). My favorite overall, thus far, next to G+ ("social") and Flickr (photography).
ReplyDeleteThere are endless thoughts on the various "pods", but why not try Pluspora - you can always switch to another "pod" with more features or connections, and you can choose public posts and/or "aspects" (the model for "circles"). Pluspora has a very large and growing group of Plussers, and will start you off with 5 categories (# tags) you can choose to start your feed and be found by shared interest. A little extra work to comment (can't just + or emoji) and you can't edit existing posts. In sum.
MeWe also has refugee groups, and probably is more to the liking of phone-centered lifestyles with a lot of texting and chatting (including a for-fee invisible mode). There is a dedicated app, and lots of emojis, groups, activity. (For me, TMI!) And all within a "walled garden". But many will find it a non-Facebook facebook, easy and with a huge (and growing) population. Try this too, if it's for you.
There is the most and best information you can possibly find - right here. And also in the New World - #gplusrefugee tags and groups help ensure you'll find many, MANY from this "Old World" here. And many, MANY opinions about what is "any good", or even great. Ask 1000 people, you'll get 1000 answers on the good & bad & ugly.
Time to be mingling with others in the new arrivals tent, and to have our things in order here, prized possessions and contact info packed, and settling in elsewhere. Soon we'll all be watching "the big bang" and the end of a wonderful civilization. From somewhere. It's time to be exploring those somewheres, if not already satisfied with what you've found thus far. Pluspora is fantastic for some (though not as spiffy an interface as some would like and not G+). You can ask, but many have already left and cannot answer. People's needs and wants vary.
Good luck all in finding or improving new homes. There is life beyond. In many flavors.
I am making progress with pluspora, and have just joined friendica to test it out. Is there a way of bookmarking things so you can find them again?
ReplyDeleteIn Friendica? Yes. When you see a post in your stream, there should be a folder icon with the mouse-over text of "Save to Folder." Click that, and a popup will appear where you can either type the name of a folder to save it to, or choose an already existing folder from the dropdown.
ReplyDeleteI think part of my issue may be using on an ipad. I can’t mouse over things, for a start. But I’ll get there. Thanks for the tip.
ReplyDelete