This just occurred to me... Google Plus will continue to exist as usual for enterprise customers. Anyone up for setting up a virtual corporation? If everyone in my circles became part of the corporation, I would find it worthwhile to do so. Is it continuing for enterprise customers on the basis of having a firewalled network?
GSuite G+ won't work the way consumer G+ did/does once consumer is gone. Also GSuite is a paid service, so being able to finance it would play a big part.
ReplyDeleteAnd you don't need a corporation. They'll let you in for money.
ReplyDeleteI seen for Google Top contributors but it take a lot of time
ReplyDeleteShawn H Corey so an individual can purchase Google Plus enterprise edition? How much and what will be different? I presume the biggest difference would be whether other people in your circles would subscribe.
ReplyDeleteNote, G Suite is available for free to US 501(c)3 non-profit organizations. I’m the G Suite admin for one of those. Also for my personal domain.
ReplyDeleteThe problems:
1. We don’t yet have assurance that post 4/2 G Suite users will still be able to communicate among different G Suite organizations. They haven’t sent us administrators anything saying it won’t still work, but they haven’t said it will.
2. Administering a G Suite domain is pretty easy, and there are different levels of administrator privilege, but the task of creating and maintains thousands of accounts is not to be ignored. I spend enough time dealing with just over a hundred users forgetting their passwords and such.
Numerous limitations will apply:
ReplyDelete1. Content will probably only be visible to the specific G Suite Domain. Now, if that's large enough, fine, but...
2. No Circles.
3. No Collections.
Quite probably other bits will change.
I have NO interest in this.
Edward Morbius Your first point remains uncertain. G Suite users can currently collaborate with G Suite users in other domains and in other organizations. None of the communications from Google to G Suite administrators have yet stated whether that function will be removed, and they have been pretty specific about what will be removed on 4/2 and what we as administrators need to do about it.
ReplyDeleteNow, given the incredibly poor quality of those communications, I can well believe that they just forgot to tell us, but you do nobody a service by stating it as a fact that G Suite users will be limited to communicating within their own domain. At a minimum, they will be able to communicate with other domains within their G Suite organization (e.g., one of my orgs has two domains currently). Whether they will be able to communicate with people in other G Suite organizations still remains to be seen. I remain hopeful, as our organization uses G Suite to collaborate just as much with people in other G Suite organizations as with people within our organization.
In fact, the Help Center article (support.google.com - Important changes to Google+ for G Suite due to the consumer shutdown - G Suite Admin Help) strongly implies that Communities will continue to work across G Suite domains, assuming the Community has at least one G Suite owner.
ReplyDeleteBrian Holt Hawthorne I've tossed a "probably" into that statement. It's a claim I've seen repeated by TCs / PEs on G+E numerous times.
ReplyDeleteOK, there's this:
Public community, outside your domain
Description: A public community that people inside and outside your domain can join or view. These communities may have members from outside your organization.
For public communities, outside your domain, the following will be deleted:
• Communities that don’t have an owner with a G Suite account. If at least one owner is a G Suite user, the community will not be deleted. G Suite users can see their own content from deleted communities in their Google+ activity log.
• Community content from consumer users’ accounts. Only content from G Suite users will remain.
Additional upcoming changes to public communities, outside your domain:
• All remaining content in these communities will be visible to G Suite users only.
• These communities will become ask-to-join communities, if they are not already.
• G Suite users will no longer be able to create new public communities outside their domain. They will only be able to create new private communities outside their domain (invite-only), and only G Suite users can join._
support.google.com - Important changes to Google+ for G Suite due to the consumer shutdown - G Suite Admin Help
Edward Morbius So a paid G+ account is like a walled MeWe account, is that correct?
ReplyDeleteAnton A If anything, still more restrictive than.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius Exactly. That was the section I was referring to that said that public communities owned by at least one g Suite owner would continue to exist, but all the consumer accounts and their content would disappear. It also says that G Suite users will still be able to create private communities outside their domain. Unless it is a typo, that is the strongest indication I have seen of cross-organization collaboration remaining.
ReplyDeleteAnton A It is like a G+ account which only ever shares to its circles, and never publicly.
ReplyDeleteI preferred mostly posting to my circles. Beyond that I've always been concerned I might post something publicly that would come back and bite me. For public, a web site or blog would do.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius Thank you for the information
ReplyDelete"G Suite price increases are the first in a decade."
ReplyDeleteBasic to $6 a month per user.
Business to $12 a month.
Enterprise stays $25 per user a month.
When? The very same day G+ closes.
I would pay $6/mo. Or a little more to subsidize some interesting members. The key there is I already know what they're like. I might not pay $6 to join unknown strangers.
ReplyDeleteJames Lamb So, buy a domain and start signing up your friends! Or, start a 501(c)3 and do it for nothing.
ReplyDeleteI actually have an enterprise account, but cannot figure out how to get my G+ Communities created for work switched over to the enterprise account, and no one at our enterprise seems able to figure it out, either.
ReplyDeletePF Anderson You have to add an enterprise account as one of the owners of the community.
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