I can see Google completely not understanding what exactly it created, even if it created it well.
Originally shared by Khaled Alaghil
.... Maybe They failed because they don't use the social media and they are more comfortable with phones and emails ....
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/eric-schmidt-takes-responsibility-for-google-social-networking-problems-2018-11-1027704432
Originally shared by Khaled Alaghil
.... Maybe They failed because they don't use the social media and they are more comfortable with phones and emails ....
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/eric-schmidt-takes-responsibility-for-google-social-networking-problems-2018-11-1027704432
Yes. That' so 1984 ;) It could also say "We have to have the biggest otherwise it is a failure" – Brave New World …
ReplyDeleteMost big companies don't understand socmed because socmeds are about people. Had it focus on people, it would still be a contender.
ReplyDeleteThe article seems to consider everything, from Google Groups to Wave, to be a social network. Maybe the "everything is a social network" attitude is a problem. See it as its own thing, a tool that does something cool, and don't try to compare it to Facebook.
ReplyDeleteThis, from me, four years ago, rings prescient:
ReplyDeleteEngadget's got a little fluff bit on Google's former CEO and present chairman. "Eric Schmidt: my biggest mistake at Google was not anticipating social"
No, Schmidt, your biggest mistake was failing to realize that vast hoards of highly detailed and categorized personal data are not only an asset, but a tremendous liability.
https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1u356d/schmidt_my_biggest_mistake_is_still_not_realizing/
old.reddit.com - Schmidt: My biggest mistake is still not realizing my biggest mistake • r/dredmorbius
Several times through the years I googled what the media and others had to say about G+.
ReplyDeleteMostly I found "dated" articles and blogs where G+ was presented in a negative light. Always carrying past grudges by those commenting about being forced to have a G+ profile, and/or other failures of the site itself.
Many described it as a dead space. I still wonder how Google bungled such a wonderful opportunity to organically integrate the YT audience.
Instead it created an epic failure of sales and marketing that stands as one of the greatest missteps and lost opportunities in social media history.
What should have been part of an original and ingenious master plan, turned out to be a dud...one that continually haunts the site from the day they rolled it out.
Amusingly, it only would have taken a small group of adopters/employees to spend a couple minutes each week creating buzz while selling/marketing the site all over the internet. From continual media interviews and insights, to encouraging bloggers/vloggers/businesses everywhere with the benefits of joining and taking part in the next big social media platform.
Then a few years later, oh god, the new interface was such a major flub. From their lack of engagement with long time Plussers with what they want, and what'll work, to completely ignoring the growing backlash from the current user base as they forced the switchover.
Psst,...never only listen to the "yes men", encourage your long term user base to be interactive skeptics with what changes can work, and what features shouldn't be touched.
FFS....it's free focus groups on a grand scale from those already invested.
Myself and many more were aghast with what google did to the community "about section". You know, that really well placed section that supported write ups and links before the new interface was implemented.
Yet, regardless of this very useful section for community building staying on top of the page, they relegated it to the inconspicuous and hard to find spot down on the bottom left hand corner where many never bother checking.
They took something that was easily accessible and useful where it was, and relegated it to the very hard to find and pretty much useless space halfway down the bottom left hand corner of the page.
Just had to repeat stating this blunder~!
Meh...only a few among many gaffs Google Plus made through the years.
The sunsetting has begun...the light is dimming...goodbye G+, you were a great site run by incompetent morons who didn't have the least amount of foresight and ingenuity with how to successfully run and manage the product.
Edward Morbius It's the here and now and not the past that bugs me. Google has had plenty of time to respond to G+ users' pleas for assistance removing their materials from G+. Google's response? Silence. Google brass didn't know how to run G+ properly when it existed. I don't know why I am surprised they don't know how to properly dispose of it, either.
ReplyDeleteJeff Diver History offers lessons to tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I share your concerns, and I've voiced those for weeks. Silence bodes poorly.
When I spend time on other sites, esp. facebook, it is very obvious that G+ people are more intelligent. That is something I value very much and will miss.
ReplyDeleteThey knew how it worked when it started. Then they didn't.
ReplyDeleteyoutube.com - Google+: New Dad
Martha Magenta Yes, had this impression too. Especially when it comes to emotional intelligence.
ReplyDeleteJohn Arrington Woodward G+ always seemed to be something that worked well within the Plex bubble itself, but fairly poorly on the outside. It was a poor fit across multiple dimensions, and there were multiple constituencies with differing wants and needs, many of those in conflict. Google didn't have a clear idea of which of those it wanted to serve, it mostly just wanted to beat Facebook, but had a poor idea of how Facebook itself had succeeded in the first place and what Facebook's own structural weaknesses were.
ReplyDeleteGoogle+ was fundamentally fear-motivated. That's a poor master.
Edward Morbius "Google+ was fundamentally fear-motivated. That's a poor master." Sums it up nicely.
ReplyDeleteJohn Arrington Woodward "Fear is the mind killer..."
ReplyDelete"My answer is because we didn’t use it." That is definitely true. Very few execs ever used this platform. Even Brad Horowitz, who ran this division, very rarely posted here (at least publicly).
ReplyDeleteI feel like you're right, John Arrington Woodward. The early vision was done by some people who had a vision. It was perhaps overly complex, but it was different from FB. Then, it's like the company got scared and went into "destroy FB" mode and made a bunch of foolish decisions, shifting the service here and there, trying to make it into something that it wasn't. And in that process, it lost its way and the market position it had as a "shared-interest network."
There is nothing more fragile in our contemporary corporate or organizational environment than something that works as is.
ReplyDeleteok, if google really don't want this product, we need to responsibly ask for a full migration path (inc. groups and collections)
ReplyDeleteJohn Arrington Woodward Well said!
ReplyDeletei like google in general, and plus in particular.
ReplyDeletethey may decide to break it, but they must respect our request to keep it. and i believe they will
What Eric Schmidt says in this brief interview can be assessed as trivial, lame, and pathetic.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what it means to say things like the following:
"We didn't know what we were trying to do."
"We didn't try to figure out what we wanted to accomplish."
"We were not trying to manage this global information utility properly."
"Use cases? Success criteria? What are those?"
There is another key aspect here that few people think or talk about, which is the legal exposure and financial exposure for (a) doubleplusungood thought crimes and (b) exposure of personal data.
That is becoming part of European [ EU ] law.
Google refuses to walk into that No Man's land and thus restricts the service offering to business subscribers and dumps the public.
There is a not-so-well known but important saying:
Stand To The Right.
Look After What's Left.
Mind The Gap.
I'm all about minding the gap.
"It is only necessary to want to get things clear."
Professor G.J. Warnock, Oxford University
look, everybody wanted a social dimension, google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems, thus unfortunately decide to bail out.
ReplyDeletemaybe all they want is to show us we are here for free, and ask that we lower expectations in terms of privacy etc. maybe waiver some right.
fb would have done it more brutally, anyway, especially that their conditions were harsh from the start.
We all make mistakes, Google! With many fewer assets than Google, however, some of us actually learn from them, take the financial hits and find the corporate courage to carry on.
ReplyDeleteWill we business subscribers be well-served by Google's cut and run philosophy? With the demise of public G+, (and your pattern of abandonment of several other Google initiatives) you have given us paying subscribers reason for skepticism.
Google, dumping the public G+ makes your business subscription substantially less attractive for some of your current paying subscribers. We shall be keeping an eye on your competition. They could easily have learned more from Google+ than Google has!
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MCoJmy1B8jUGcet-TX3li_uZFc8ESDlk3I0LrAxil36nEGvz72kV3Feodm-GKYfc8ChbnGWLGhY45idUkl3pVqK3ISYmtjoTsHKV=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XpaOAx-a2KQyAxC1evhmCTYblalIwetGIjyCDGGdbQhH2cFh2CAuqVELX4J9LJHxBzWl2RCrIo_ABZHUbNnGPRr1D3Sgdc8jkj38=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bGyLCJB9YBp253vQNWoIKVdHaPumL72Ks0NG9kNGrK_chEfjiJphvue3vAaobYNcikD5C8_RXoF3yQqEQJEjuACpWaZU_f__sIFk=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2i_vonfcYV4ZJG3WFtmDM3SSaXxrsKx9515KdrQkBAcE7VLsh990Nvtk2BvMEz51h3LCNkI5prIMP3k10Vh-DgYL0C0MgipVWAvy=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uQzT3MBVtcUJjrLuy9j97JHJthgGt6AkyakbD6dvPXK9oW-uKwZUsQVcECFPN-TducJYk4Hb_PTj-TGkKNNPH5FnmD0prro9rnpw=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/R9rNMzCRTXlW1SgXwVz-q_3JW22x4IfvZwbFbRlYd27t7cgl6W47ZmO1B6zKnZuqgZUl7fjKCh2bTRkSxjlLqDc30T67Kf9Zf2kF=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EzES1bib1wQxBkoXXKgJtRNCJOpQLsVUDEBxvd8sbOuLtvf0XjHlHNBT_H_63uZ5K8sEeGtgr5ReuK1lCjnDUNpXUwNg2dIIdLUD=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vtxkKiZIWDMefwo5lzIkFHq5sQATgX9VVdaB6HdBLauZhkVbcIZ8G1w7RHKMzFKk9KCv6ocm5W7sGFJ0AoGtSEtGYVx-JAKkZlfx=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MaiGyIP9wlI0S8g0rV9gK6rmRh9keOJxSkvOWqdXqc6c6WSdWqZmPD2XQTA7bLBQjCLBvT7uBkkEepOySwLjcru121isfwkmqDE9=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aZ7Zg8b2FFAaHyfkI-tGuwOPtX9RLDR1fUuEFfwP6kHQnYaQmG-PSACqLaxnMY0SGnK6c36MZM-I-ytvo1wrzLfkMhQMf05h9uGU=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ufHm03KBWeFQQFJeXVgSeytbRi1hFWM5gVxWAC-nrfgvKgHOb5uYaQAGNWhLlY4M_VTu8lySo1JCEebkay12fiIcIhvzXaY5geDj=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YEPoqfAZ2yuHIkfUel2Y8qJ2V0_WA7xsJFrbLg7_9FD8KC_8w6med0os5SYXjVjunS0XuDNPVjHj0vXmzY1x0V_rE7z3JZY6PE0t=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Hm5DP6RWf0N9sO_lYTnmR9EDwDedblY0vBti6_Ub5HYiR8y5WRbDpaetGKajooe6spA8AcM534WDduvfUGlkitqhWrINGeDiQD4R=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iVzPfcku7ygjMxQM4C6VIYO82IVW81hS1WO2gm2ZT3Ysgpn1OCs3ln8v7TpMzHaATsblC4-imumSo2XbVqDVaImNf5XhEPv1vCir=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ob3zcX1MjlXkKg-OOPSk1p9EN0bgI5LBKU7SqJ1OH1TmtCO7BXKpVSooBuH4l6iUPSJIU_EjkrpAnketLXjeZ7UwCYsP3Tk0RG4C=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NcWcfxGcqwOC6-5eU41pOIAlUMSZXWf29KVfz_UFKIKmJm25-yw2ocFL2HzwkJeqoLHtUxaiH8k64umT8dIDBUDEaSvscaI54HCT=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sAyUJiVH4Ezj80w32lsB_PDeSC5MKZ6nnK-QrJFQi05k9LnIUZ5nujqNZ526M6iIMzEQqLNJav7Uv3U6oTWNba_6AKosrv2mLqme=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PmLd5A_UroZgjzV1iLMLW-o3fkSzSYSy51zgcdO5TNHELnCDujnH9QIhXEBYX70zsHUaNm6E3fK2jA6m48kwBlhV1f9x4P-KLd0B=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UxnG_ISRTPT4RXz1OWUx7j-c8u6zUq3EyTUaShPheQyRk0WpaVahrjfFwDi060LQME5jp0utb9R0fWCOCQ27phLX69hAcBjmTGtQ=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bXbjqWEVrXsQ2ugpWgo32jc8Nj40kppIoBipTV-EfrDs3nCRNWIgIWawChHbcGrD-PfIcWj1E38geKfQmmsaSbBxMwPiXBEQymnQ=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZzvxaD_sYbrK2RSVWwxz3qcqhdXXkaG_RsHYML7230ISYHAD04fDTO-0upV_rlY0966FAHO1jZDlWOt2qJDX4Pt0hh14TzXsPJzD=s0
Alex Bodnaru
ReplyDeleteRe: "google did it better, but don't want to be exposed to problems. . ."
Yes. As I made clear.
The problem is extremely deep and general, and has MAJOR legal and economic risks across The Pond.
Google is a United States firm.
So is Facebook.
However, we all know that Google, Facebook, and other major American firms are overseen and controlled by Europe, specifically by Angela Merkel, by German anti-free speech law, and the threat of European Union Directorate law.
Even tho NOBODY elected them to run American businesses.
If I go to London or Germany, I cannot say anything about politics. People like Tommy Robinson of London are thrown in jail for quoting newspaper text in front of a court house.
Free society organizers and civic nationalists and those who criticize religion can lose their jobs.
In 2015 a French police officer was taken to court and lost his job for something he posted on Facebook.
He criticized Caliph Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the military leader of Islamic State because that team killed a friend of his.
He was kicked off the police force.
This is the new normal in much of Europe. I have a big stack of articles on the issue. There are many instances and analyses.
In theory, the same may apply to claimed free speech platforms such as the reincarnated Gab and MeWe, which I expect to be using in a few months.
Germany will - in principle - claim administrative and legal authority over these and other social platforms.
That means
Free Speech Is Whatever We Want You To Say.
Stephane Charbonnier of Charlie Hebdo Paris:
"I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8Gr3Hr7MFESXvJRh6V8OW2w4SEd0VSLZmqDhwaY9oqxqr0SQsQ9JitWPEQZRRQVIYbGRRx_sjV4GXAI_17hL_30E_hOljlHIW9fx=s0
And...the thread is hijacked. Fascists to the right of me, fascists to the left of me...Blocked.
ReplyDeleteso you mean google is an European firm.
ReplyDeleteok, that may determine other ways to govern social media.
more like telegram does.
Politics are appropriate for discussion, but just not particularly relevant to this thread, especially when people turn unfounded opinions into authoritative statements and then ramble on for a bit too long.
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the other comments. Closing this thread.