Looks like MeWe will be offering an import tool using the Google Takeout downloads. A little skimpy on details, but at least it something to look forward to provided you're able get your takeout downloaded.
Hopefully this means they can spend some time nicely building the tool instead of rushing to build something against the APIs that will be dead soon.
Source: https://techaeris.com/2019/02/15/the-mewe-social-network-made-a-tool-to-import-your-google-data-to-their-platform/
https://techaeris.com/2019/02/15/the-mewe-social-network-made-a-tool-to-import-your-google-data-to-their-platform/
Hopefully this means they can spend some time nicely building the tool instead of rushing to build something against the APIs that will be dead soon.
Source: https://techaeris.com/2019/02/15/the-mewe-social-network-made-a-tool-to-import-your-google-data-to-their-platform/
https://techaeris.com/2019/02/15/the-mewe-social-network-made-a-tool-to-import-your-google-data-to-their-platform/
once again hats off to me we further proactiveness they really are listening to what people want..
ReplyDeleteTrucker Kev The Paid Tourist or want your infomation because we dont know how this thing works.
ReplyDeleteListening but taking 30 years to do it
ReplyDeleteTrucker Kev The Paid Tourist Mewe has promise many features and even on reddit AMA they said the same thing but nothing is getting done.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised more aren't making tools to allow us all to turn over 7 years of life data 😏
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ReplyDeleteBigattck Firecat they now have public posts they didn't have that before. your hashtag can pretty much be recognized all over the internet now. that didn't happen before.
ReplyDeletethe one thing they're not doing is putting the cart before the horse and jumping into it doing too much at one time and getting in over their heads.
Be sure you strip all your private posts out of your Takeout archive before providing it to MeWe (or any other platform for that matter), especially if there's a chance it contains data you don't ever want to see resurfaced online due to a privacy setting issue, or data leak.
ReplyDeleteThe command-line tool 'jq' can be used to merge and filter JSON files/data, and my Plexodus-Tools has a jq library that should simplify filtering a bit: https://github.com/FiXato/Plexodus-Tools/blob/master/README.md#filtering-json-data-with-a-jq-library
github.com - Plexodus-Tools
This sounds very deceptive to me. What they DON'T say is that you'll be paying for the service. Free MeWe is limited to 8GB, so importing more than 8GB of posts means you've got to pay.
ReplyDeleteIn contrast, the F+ME export tool has been consistently upfront about the $20 fee for exporting more than the free limit.
MeWe? Not a peep.
I think this is a desperate bid to generate some revenue from all these G+ freeloaders. Which would actually be okay if they were upfront about it. Instead, though, they're being deceptive.
And this is no surprise. They've been deceptive before and got away with it, among the MeWe "true believers". They lied about Public posts, and have shown no signs of owning up to their lies about it. There are still no true Public posts - posts visible to and linkable for the outside internet. They're only visible to people within MeWe.
The way they're announcing and hyping this service is consistent with this pattern of deception. The wording is deceptive (making it sound like the feedback is to the importer itself rather than just the announcement), and the fact that it's announced a month in advance means that people won't realize they're tricked until weeks from now. In the meantime, the deceptive campaign will have hopefully tricked people into joining MeWe.
It's the same pattern of deception as the Public posts. They make deceptive promises, knowing the "true believers" will repeat them and even embellish them.
This is not the pattern of behavior of a trustworthy enterprise.
Trucker Kev The Paid Tourist It is not really a public post, no one but a Weme account can see it, the website is still a closed group. a public post is like on twitter, you shouldent need a account to see a public post.
ReplyDeleteMeWe's idea of "public" isn't what people think it is -- can't link offsite. Which is essentially worthless if you want to add it to profiles, for example. It's a closed site as of now.
ReplyDeleteNot quite sure they're being deceptive about public posts or the G+ import. The 8GB limit sort of has been floating around in their descriptions for a while and MeWe obviously has a pay-to-purchase store where you can't even get a dark theme for free... So there's enough concept that this site will take your money for features.
ReplyDeleteAnd most people that move I would guess won't have 8GB worth of content photos to move. Exceptions are probably people in this community (and you don't have to sign up with a CC, so there's no way to charge once you exceed that 8GB limit... though I'm not sure what exactly will happen).
Aside from that, yes, there's a lot of shadiness especially from the CEO, personally, I can't stand the whole "holy war" against Facebook. It's just tiring, misguided, and makes not only him seem petty, but it makes all the users of MeWe seem petty, and that's definitely not a good thing.
So you're totally welcome to dislike MeWe for all kinds of reasons ("free speech", Facebook vitriol, paying for features, broken promises, delayed promises, etc). But I find too many of those posts extending their own personal dislike into something of a conspiracy theory, and that starts to erode the credibility of the poster, not MeWe.
If you want to fight the fight against MeWe, do it better: plus.google.com - tl;dr Stop complaining about MeWe, it's not productive, start recommending so...
I do do it better. My old post against MeWe which has gone viral specifically recommend Hubzilla (and to a lesser extent other Federated options) as a better alternative.
ReplyDeleteNot only that, I have been working on enhancements to the alternatives. I've been developing multi-column streams on various alternative platforms, including diaspora, Hubzilla, Mastodon, and Tumblr.
I even made a multi-column stream enhancement for MeWe itself - someone requested it, so I did it.
(It did involve fighting MeWe's HTML/CSS; it's complicated in a Facebook wannabe way, but I still figure out a way to get it to work for the main and group streams.)
(I also spent a lot of effort trying to fight the Facebook HTML/CSS, but Facebook's purposefully weird CSS is even harder to fight than MeWe's. I've given up on it for now.)
I'm not just a complainer. I work on trying to actually make these things better - including MeWe. Heck, including Facebook.
Isaac Kuo I wish Hubzilla felt better to get started on. I tried but got so distracted when I couldn't really figure out where or what to join. I probably should give it another shot... But I cant seem to recommend it unless I personally set up something myself for people to specifically sign up to... which is currently not what I wanted.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate all the UI improvements, but unless they come with some better underlying community management and other functioning tools, no amount of lipstick on Pluspora is going to make is usable for communities.
Oh, I actually changed my mind about Hubzilla since that post. I like diaspora a lot more than Hubzilla now, and my enhancements mostly concentrate on diaspora.
ReplyDeleteI don't really know what you mean by "underlying community management and other functioning tools".
The enhancements I'm working on are community management and other functioning tools. I mean...we're talking moderation tools for membership, banning, deleting posts/comments, etc.
Isaac Kuo MeWe also needs help on the banner/avatar photos, too.
ReplyDeleteThese newer platforms have a "one size fits all" images to fit all devices, and not knowing the max image dimensions and size, it can create UGLY banners and avatars when adjusted to fit a smartphone.
Need dimensions and image size limit numbers, so to fit the artwork so it's not clipped off center, and looks like a dot matrix photo. -_-
Isaac Kuo Those all sound like great changes. Are they meant to eventually be part of Diaspora or just the UI on top of fit? How are these changes distributed? Does everyone that wants to participate have to load on tampermonkey?
ReplyDeleteThere's still concepts for Events, photo albums, posts vs chats, etc which different social networks do differently. Maybe it's me, but I feel there will quickly be limitations to how much can be done if it's just superficial.
Any chance to work on these at the more fundamental Disapora level to make them into real changes?
My intent is for it to become integrated into pluspora, as well as any other pods which want the features. It could become part of diaspora's standard base also, but I'm not holding up my own development waiting for that.
ReplyDeleteI'm really not sure what you mean be "superficial". I'm using the infrastructure of diaspora, but storing moderation data etc within special posts. It's a matter of taking advantage of the existing data structures and pod-to-pod transmission infrastructure so those things don't need to be modified in order for federation to work.
It's a paradigm for defining extensions that maintains broad compatibility with non-upgraded systems/users.
As for events, photo albums, chats ... those are features which I have no interest in implementing in diaspora. They have those things in Hubzilla and Friendica, but I view those features as undesirable complexity that limit how flexible those platforms are due to their own weight.
Indeed, the original developer of Friendica and Hubzilla has moved on to a completely different paradigm where there are multiple specialized platforms which interoperate with each other. Rather than trying to throw everything into a single platform, his new strategy is to distribute things among different specialized platforms, which share remote authentication methods to allow you to interoperate between them.
That's a very ambitious goal, but I prefer a more focused approach. I have specific specialized ideas about what features diaspora ought to have, and expanding scope beyond posts/comments/Collections/Communities is, IMO, undesirable.
A more focused approach is more sustainable by keeping maintenance costs/issues at a reasonable level.
Also, my enhancements are meant to be modular and optional. Even if integrated into baseline diaspora, I want it to remain optional for pod admins.
Isaac Kuo Thats great and all but how do you get more users who might otherwise not know computer programing. what you said is mainly aim at people who program reather than getting people for being people.
ReplyDeleteIsaac Kuo I think they're great. They just may not be sufficient for a photography community (which is my niche). Perhaps a group moderated talk or something might benefit. Just to explain what I was seeing a need for "underlying community management and other functioning tools". The minimal might work, but through seeing how G+ and even MeWe is trying to do community management, we know there can be better as well.
ReplyDeleteThe whole distributed idea also sounds great. Personally, I wish all these networks will adopt Google Photos as the place to put and pull photos from instead of each one doing their own thing. But again, maybe that's just my own needs.
Bigattck Firecat The userstyles and userscripts are installable on a user level with simple clicks - just like installing an App in Android or iOS. It's just not complicated. The userstyles I've made for diaspora, Mastodon, Hubzilla, Tumblr, and MeWe are here:
ReplyDeleteuserstyles.org - Isaac Ji Kuo - Stylish themes & skins
On a pod level, they'd be installed by the admins - but that's something admins would be comfortable with.
wara zashi For a photography community, it's true that the pod admins would have to allow larger limits on image uploads (to whatever is deemed necessary). That's not something that can be defined client-side.
ReplyDeleteBut other than that specific bit, I don't really understand what could be needed which can't be offered by various client-side enhancements.
In particular, multi-column Stream is awesome for browsing through large volumes of photos. A single column stream for this really sucks. But five columns? Now we're cooking.
My multi-column stream defaults to 3 columns, but you can adjust the number of columns as desired. 3 columns is good for browsing long form posts/comments in place. But if you mostly want to browse through images and only wish to middle click specific images/albums to see them up full size? 5+ columns can be a better fit.
Maybe I'll have to try it out and see before I comment too much more :P
ReplyDeleteIsaac Kuo There you go again, you made it sound so programmy instead of having an understanding of users who do not program.
ReplyDeleteBigattck Firecat Dude, what's your problem? If you want to just use my extensions, you just click on them to install. There's no programming required.
ReplyDeleteWhat, precisely, is your problem with me? I'm trying to help people. What are you trying to do?
Isaac Kuo thats all you had to say, your soical media is just an extension just like how other soical medias are desktop or something else. it shouldent be this complex to join a socal media.
ReplyDeleteOh, okay.
ReplyDeleteWill copying your posts on G+ and other account details also mean copying photos uploaded to G+ over as well. Photo storage on G+ was free but storage on MeWe might not be.
ReplyDeleteYou get 8GB for free. Five years ago I would have said that that I'd never use that much, but I got used to uploading photos to G+ for no overhead.
After 8GB, the rates are (as copied on 20th February):
50 GB $ 4.99 / month
100 GB $ 9.99 / month
500 GB $ 19.99 / month
Those prices seem really pricy.
ReplyDeletewara zashi Yes, especially when Photobuscket for example are offereing up to 1TB of storage for about $50/year. But using that or say, deviant art or Flickr means uplpoading your images somewhere else. More complications.
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