Hmm wondering if google is going to delete out all of the google+ data files that has been hosted on their servers...
Hmm wondering if google is going to delete out all of the google+ data files that has been hosted on their servers or just simply disable the interactive connectivity leaving the files
Sun setting can mean no longer useful active disabled but doesn’t have to necessarily mean completely dismantled
Sun setting can mean no longer useful active disabled but doesn’t have to necessarily mean completely dismantled
The Moon could light up the night after the sun sets ...
ReplyDeleteOf course they'll keep as much info as they can - they can use it for targeted ads and other purposes.
ReplyDeleteI hope the latter. But I'm not going to assume. It'd be great if they would tell us about that right now.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that they seem to be encouraging us to download our Google+ stuff seems to suggest the former :-(
It is a gold mine. They will keep the data.
ReplyDeleteBtw, with Duo and all their products they shut down, they keep gathering information for more accurate targeted ads.
To the point I wonder if they don't simply do it purposely, to crop our data.
Lol lots to mine? So there may still be access like I can still find my yahoo posts even though I deleted my account I realize this is different
ReplyDeleteHi CA M. The only reasonable assumption is that the files will be deleted shortly if not immediately after the user interface is disabled. It is possible that Google might leave the files in place for a relatively short period of time so that people could still download their content, but I would not count on even that happening. There is no reasonable hope that the files would remain for any length of time or that we would continue to be able to view each others' content once that user interface is disabled because that kind of access would require a full user interface of its own.
ReplyDeleteI’m hoping someone will come out with a nice little timeline app that will allow me merge in my google + posts not sure about how indexing search features could be incorporated or make it pdf format
ReplyDeleteIt’s like google doesn’t make deleting an email easy straight forward to clear out server archive? Maybe they warehouse all data they can get a hold of such as searches locations etc
ReplyDeleteGoogle will keep all the data it’s internal policies and the law allows, as long as they can still use it for data mining.
ReplyDeleteAnything else will go out the window as, for them, it’s just wasted server space that can be better used for other things.
Given data-protection best practices and regulations, my guess would be that it will be deleted.
ReplyDeleteJohn Victor You are incorrect there. Google deletes your data quite quickly after a user requests that it be deleted. The amount of time it takes to delete all instances of data depend on when your request comes in relative to their backup cycle (because all instances are not deleted until all backup copies are also purged), but everything is purged within a matter of weeks.
ReplyDeleteNot sure how I’m incorrect. I didn’t say anything that conflicts with how quickly google can delete data when required to do so.
ReplyDeleteIf they can hold onto the data, and monetize it, they will. If they are not permitted to keep data, or find no value in keeping it, then they will delete it.
Might depend on your region. GDPR in Europe means they need to get rid of the data when the service closes. It's generally not a lot of use to anyone anyway and what can be taken from it for advertising has long since been added to your advertising ID.
ReplyDeleteWhen Google Buzz shut down, ISTR Takeout was still available for 6 months to a year after the UI closed. I'd expect the same thing to happen with G+
ReplyDeleteJulian Bond - things have changed a lot since then... In particular, GDPR sets a 1 month deadline for data erasure: ico.org.uk - Right to erasure
ReplyDeleteBernhard Suter That's about people who ask for their accounts to be erased. It doesn't apply otherwise.
ReplyDeleteMarysia Kurowski yes it does. GDPR means if you don't need the data you need to delete it whether asked to or not. Needing the data would be where you are mandated to keep it like financial transactions or to provide a continuing service that the person uses. The closure of g+ means they are not providing a service. As I said before they may retain some metadata that is already added to your advertising id but in the EU even that can be avoided if you care to set cookie permissions for every site.
ReplyDeleteIn reality I have no idea how long the data will be available for someone to take out but it won't be long and if it bothers you, you do have the right to ask for its immediate deletion.
John Skeats The only reasonable assumption is that the files will be deleted...
ReplyDeleteI really don't see that. It would be prudent to act as if the site will be disabled. That is, a "plan for the worst" scenario is; retrieve your data for personal use / publication elsewhere. But the worst is not assured.
Google have been pointedly silent on future plans for xtant Google+ public materials. My charitable interpretation is that the decision has not yet been made and quite possibly there is an internal debate on this question.
It's true that earlier Google social networks have been fully downed: Friend Connect, Orkut, and Buzz. Several of those sustained existence for years. Google Buzz, most notably, did not.
Given Google+'s magnitude -- over 3.3 billion profiles, roughly 9%, or 300 million, posting publicly at least once, and an active and reasonably significant core measuring well into the millions posting regularly, and the fact that the service itself will persist as an enterprise product -- it is reasonably possible that Google+ will continue to be accessible online for some time, possibly indefinitely, even if in read-only format.
The matter is uncertain. This is a major question I would like Google to answer, clearly, and soon.
Edward Morbius me too ty for spending the time to share your thoughts I have been thinking along the same lines that you so poignantly expressed
ReplyDeleteCuan Knaggs Untrue.
ReplyDeleteJohn Victor You said "Google will keep all the data it’s internal policies and the law allows, as long as they can still use it for data mining," which directly conflicts with what I said about Google deleting the information quickly after users request deletion.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius I agree that the matter is uncertain.
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