This comparison of thee social media networks might be of interest for those hoping to change:
https://www.minds.com/be_st/blog/next-generation-social-networks-the-journey-comes-to-an-end-900029607145865216
https://www.minds.com/be_st/blog/next-generation-social-networks-the-journey-comes-to-an-end-900029607145865216
https://www.minds.com/be_st/blog/next-generation-social-networks-the-journey-comes-to-an-end-900029607145865216
https://www.minds.com/be_st/blog/next-generation-social-networks-the-journey-comes-to-an-end-900029607145865216
Nothing centralised, depending on a single company, will be the solution.
ReplyDeleteHolger Jakobs You should read my postings more carefully: Steemit isn't centralised and doesn't rely on a single company.
ReplyDeleteIf https://steemit.com goes down you can still access all the content on the blockchain via https://busy.org and https://steempeak.com.
If https://steem.io/ goes down we loose one witness and lot of miners but data will be preserved on the blockchain and IPFS.
You can open new accounts on https://steemit.com/pick_account, https://anon.steem.network, https://www.steemcreate.com and https://v2.steemconnect.com/accounts/create. That too doesn't rely on any single company
There are also a couple in Steem clones running on there own blockchain.
The main advantage of Steemit: The average user doesn't' notice that Steemit isn't centralised and doesn't rely on a single company.
That's a user-friendliness non of the other decentralised networks manage.
busy.org - Martin Krischik - Busy
Haven't even heard of any of these. Exploring...
ReplyDeleteStill waiting for steemit invitation. Trying to get into minds.
ReplyDeleteDainius Happy You don't need an invitation, just sign up.
ReplyDeleteWait, I see, there is a queue right now. Another Article is needed.
signup.steemit.com - Sign up on Steem
Martin Krischik I found the following:
ReplyDeleteWhat many new users of Steemit don't notice is that creating fully functional account on the https://steem.io/ blockchain isn't free. The miners need to be payed and account creation cost about $15 in total.
Not many users will open an account under these conditions so https://signup.steemit.com/ offers free account if you are prepared to pay with your mobile phone number and a two week waiting line.
If you think your mobile phone number is worth more then $15 there here are some alternatives:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@gmichelbkk/4-ways-to-create-a-new-account-on-steem
steem.io - Steem - blockchain-based social media platform
Social network.
ReplyDeleteIt is amazing that a ranking on social networks doesn't include... the people.
That is something very annoying for the non-nerd ordinary person. Features, features and features... What people want from a social network is to meet other people, strangers, friends or family.
Features are just there once we have followers /friends etc.
So the best social network is the one where you feel like with friends.
Olivier Malinur Yeah, not much mentioning of users, or even user base numbers. But lots of mentioning of money, payments, cryptocurrency, transaction performance, and bots. Blech. Block-chain garbage means a ton of wasted CPU cycles and sluggish performance compared to efficient SQL databases that everyone with actual sense is using.
ReplyDeleteIt's just going to get even worse as CPU performance continues to improve and global computing capability continues to increase. With block-chain garbage, the software must degrade performance proportionately with these improvements. With normal efficient computing, global CPU capacity improvements provide performance benefits.
Thanks to bring a bit of sense in a siliconized debate, Isaac Kuo
ReplyDeleteHolger Jakobs you found my posting then. 😁
ReplyDeleteIsaac Kuo actually Steemit has an SQL database as cache and is not at all slower then a normal social media.
ReplyDeleteAs for userbase: any network apart from twitter and Facebook is lacking there.
Steemit and Minds have a million. Which is tiny.
Martin Krischik I get that there is this blockchain-hype, but I still don't get why everything, including a social media platform should be tokenized.
ReplyDelete... Blockchain is associated with a lot of computing cost.
Peter Speckmayer Blockchain is the new buzzword.
ReplyDeleteThe computing cost of a blockchain can be set to different levels.
If a single entity creates 51% or more of the blocks in a blockchain, then it can rewrite the blocks to say anything they want. The more blocks they control, the easier it is to rewrite the chain. Blockchains only work when there are a lot of miners vying to add the next block.
As far as I can tell, the above mentioned socmeds control 100% of the blockchain. That makes it worthless.
Martin Krischik when you say Steemit isn't centralized, do you mean that it runs on multiple servers? I visited Steem.io and could not find any mention of this topic. I would like to understand a little more about how Steemit is hosted without wading through the whitepaper.
ReplyDeleteI just signed up for the free steemit account - estimated wait time was listed as two weeks. We shall see . . .
ReplyDeleteCade Johnson Running on multiple server is a fundamental feature of any blockchain so it could well be they forgot to mention it explicitly.
ReplyDeleteIn case of Steemit you need at least 20 systems called witnesses. Heres is a list the first 100:
steemd.com - Witnesses | Steem Blockchain | Steem
The top 20 witnesses are kind of special and are determined by popular vote by the users:
https://steemit.com/~witnesses
For the details you would need to wade through the white paper.
Peter Speckmayer Not all blockchains create tokens or need to use up lots of resources.
ReplyDeleteBut yes, Steemit does have token and uses lot's of resources in form of storage space.
Shawn H Corey Minds runs on Etherium blockchain but yes it is largely controlled by Minds itself.
ReplyDeleteBut Steem.io is controlled by the top 20 witnesses.
And the witnesses are voted by the user.
Steem develops the software but they can't deploy without the witnesses agreeing.
It it wasn't for the political infighting of the wales (Users with ≈500.000 SteemPower) and the SPAMers and SCAMers it would be really good system.
Olivier Malinur > That is something very annoying for
ReplyDelete> the non-nerd ordinary person.
Not all non-nerds are "ordinary" people (if there is such a thing as an "ordinary person"). For example, geeks/otaku are not nerds, but they probably don't correspond to your idea of an "ordinary" person, either.
According to "Urban Dictionary: Geek/Nerd Debate" (see https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Geek/Nerd+Debate),
> There is a difference between geeks and nerds.
>
> Nerds are smart, people who lack much of a social life.
> They often have very few friends. Nerds don't talk
> much, and don't expect others to talk much to them.
> They are usually nice people, but don't have the social
> skills to go out and meet new friends.
>
> Geeks are different from nerds in the fact that they have
> social lives. However, these social lives are often spent
> pursuing some passion that the geek is obsessed with
> (i.e. Yu-Gi-Oh!). They spend all their time thinking about
> their one obsession, and play it in all of their free time.
> Geeks are usually only friends with other geeks, and
> attempts to converse with geeks is futile, unless, of
> course, you want to talk about Star Trek or whatever
> the certain geek is obsessed with.
Personally, I don't consider myself a nerd, but I do consider myself a geek by the above definition. Some people don't use this definition; in that case, I refer to myself as an otaku.
> Features are just there once we have followers /friends
> etc.
> So the best social network is the one where you feel like
> with friends.
For some people, yes. However, that is an overgeneralization. I am not a nerd; however, I don't visit social networks to seek friends, but to exchange ideas and knowledge. Features are essential aspect of exchanging ideas; without certain features, it is extremely difficult, or perhaps impossible, to exchange ideas in certain ways.
For example, as a hybrid amateur computer scientist/interactive digital entertainment geek/otaku, I wish to exchange ideas with, and maximize the number of followers in, both theoretical computer science and interactive digital entertainment communities. However, many theoretical computer scientists become annoyed when they see posts on interactive digital entertainment, and many interactive digital entertainment geeks become annoyed when they see posts on computer science.
Therefore, I need to submit posts on those topics in dedicated communities, rather than my main circle. Doing so requires communities, a feature.
Without communities, it doesn't matter how many people I know on a social network: As soon as a new follower who is interested in either theoretical computer science or interactive digital entertainment sees a post on the other topic, that person will most likely get annoyed and leave.
Features do matter, even before acquiring followers/friends.
Boy, it used to be you signed up and you got in. Now, you have to sign up and wait, know a thing or two about Blockchains, believe that these tokens are worth something, for what? What is the purpose of being social when it seems, from most of the people in this community, that it's the last thing they want to do? Join a community? Sure. You have to pay me for it first. Want to join the next big thing in social networking? Great. You just have to wait a couple of weeks. Want to be a part of the next big thing in networking? Forget it. It's all about what you can do with the code and nothing about socializing and learning new things.
ReplyDeleteI'm so tired of this.
Tony Payson it could be that the vetting that comes with the blockchain mechanism will give you assurance of good quality content. Having found good content on G+ without paying, I am loth to start paying now - but I might be willing to tolerate the two week wait to get "inside". Of course, I won't be able to sample the quality until I have waited. I will be glad to post what I find (but then again, you can't tell if my opinion is worth a damn).
ReplyDeleteCade Johnson I don't suggest to pay Steemit one cent until you know the system.
ReplyDeleteMy suggestion is to get a gratis account, use the system for ¼ of year to see if you like it. And then, maybe, you could start buying STEEM.
Like all cryptocurrencies it's high a risk and high volatile investment.
If you just want to use Steemit “like Google+” you don't need to and shouldn't pay anything.
update: my steemit account was approved today - three days, not two weeks. Martin, I will look for you there. I am at steemit.com - Steemit
ReplyDeleteGot email as well. Will open acc tomorrow. It took approximately one week.
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