At https://plus.google.com/u/0/+MartinSeeger/posts/UT9mMDYX9XV I started a discussion that turned out to be really...
At https://plus.google.com/u/0/+MartinSeeger/posts/UT9mMDYX9XV I started a discussion that turned out to be really interesting.
I see several results:
a) It is the people we see as the major benefit for at G+. But they are not one community but several overlapping. That makes joint decision making very difficult.
b) A lot of people are already looking/scouting/migrating for other social networks. If we one to preserve the community we need to determine what we are looking for (currently everyone is just looking for his/her features). We need to collect properties and features we are looking for. +Christian Buggedei has written a good article to as starting point (https://www.orkpiraten.de/blog/online-interaction-types-what-is-there-what-do-i-look-for). We need to complete and structure that.
c) We could define a a way how people communicate other social networks they are using so that we can easily find them if/when they are no longer active here.
This is only a first takes. There several other point rolling through my head but currently cannot form in words.
I see several results:
a) It is the people we see as the major benefit for at G+. But they are not one community but several overlapping. That makes joint decision making very difficult.
b) A lot of people are already looking/scouting/migrating for other social networks. If we one to preserve the community we need to determine what we are looking for (currently everyone is just looking for his/her features). We need to collect properties and features we are looking for. +Christian Buggedei has written a good article to as starting point (https://www.orkpiraten.de/blog/online-interaction-types-what-is-there-what-do-i-look-for). We need to complete and structure that.
c) We could define a a way how people communicate other social networks they are using so that we can easily find them if/when they are no longer active here.
This is only a first takes. There several other point rolling through my head but currently cannot form in words.
I suggested this too on the Google Mass Migration group - we need somewhere to register which platforms we're currently scouting - maybe also a rating system, so we can see which platforms people like the most. There was a guy offering to build such a system, but maybe it would be better to use something that's already out there? And not Google Sheets!😁
ReplyDeletewell, I think Google Sheets will be available for at least ten more months. That should be enough until we have something better :)
ReplyDeleteChristian Buggedei Yes, but a open public Google Sheet can be sabotaged or harvested, it's not safe. Data should be gathered in a closed system - most ideally it should be one, where you sign in with your Google account or Google+ handle (link), so only the person him/herself can update the list of places they've joined and their ratings.
ReplyDeleteThomas Christensen Google Sheets has a versioning system, you can roll back vandalism and /or you can give access only to trustworthy people.
ReplyDeletestefan holzhauer That is correct - but it's impossible to moderate it, there are millions of Google+ users! And if you only give access to trustworthy people then what's the point? Should all Google+ users first find out who's an admin, then contact them for changes made to their "line"? Also - Google Sheets can't keep that much data about all Google+ users...
ReplyDeleteI think there are different use cases: I frankly don't care about harvesting or sabotage for a rough and tumble overview of technical features. (which was the use case I had in mind when I replied) And yes, that document of mine is intentionally set to be open to anyone. Versioning will keep the worst at bay.
ReplyDeleteBut if we start a database with contact information? Of ideally ALL of Google+ users? hoo boy, that is a totally different can of worms. I actually would make an effort to NOT be responsible for that, unless I get paid top dollar for it. :)
I don't think that such a central repository would be a good idea. I'd rather have the agreement that everyone keeps track of their acquaintances, with the aid that everyone posts a list of the networks they are currently active in at a point of their choosing that is easily discoverable by their pals.
ReplyDeleteAnd once we kind of have decided on a new place to be, we put out the call.
Christian Buggedei Yes - but when you have thousands of followers (and people you follow) it's difficult to keep track of everyone and what networks they're currently scouting - so maybe the best way would be to put a survey out there, where people can add social networks to and people can upvote.
ReplyDeleteThen everyone can get an overview of which networks get most popular and where other Plussers seem to gravitate to - then decide to get a presence on a handful of the topmost networks and everyone can find eachother, no matter which networks they're on.
When the dust settles the majority might find together on a small handful of the networks.
If you have thousands of followers, it's on your followers to keep track of you. They'll manage, trust me.
ReplyDeleteIf you really actively follow thousands of people.. I applaud your speed-reading and time management skills. :)
But yes, making a good effort to document what kind of networks are out there and help everyone pick the best is definitely a good thing. And THEN we can worry about how to best communicate that change.
Christian Buggedei I don't, but some people do - I think I have 20 people I follow up on regularly and a few more occasionally...
ReplyDeleteIsabella LeCour Mods and owners can post the new address for the community in the description of the community.
ReplyDeleteplus.google.com - Some tips for helping people find you. Since the move will be over 10 months,...
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