Both seem to have serious flaws, at this point. MeWe parts are transitory; they can't be shared, linked, bookmarked, or discovered by search engines. That's a lot like Alzheimer's, using your brain metaphor.
Pluspora posts and comments can't be edited. I'm not sure what the neurological equivalent would be. Tourettes Syndrome, perhaps? The rigidity of old age? I don't know.
But I hope that both of those problems can be fixed.
Peter Maranci mmm... I looked and did not see a way. But I guess you have to know what to click (the area to see the right of the poster at the head of the post). pluspora.com - First thoughts on Diaspora
The issue of editable post on Pluspora will be solved soon. MeWe non sharable links is part of its based concept. I see Pluspora much more adaptable and evoluting than MeWe. Plus, you can communicate with the rest of Diaspora (a lot of French are on Frama for example) and the Fediverse.
Wi aM hEFF! ...so far, just MeWe. My first impression is that, compared to G+, I find it pretty limiting, but to be fair I've not done much in it. It looks like it's in an early development state, with a 'public square' type feed still to come (as I understand it) - so additional features could still be added to make it more robust, traceable, etc., and on par with G+.
But the intentionally designed lack of inter-platform connectivity at it's core is a big red flag to me. I think this is an aspect of G+ that it seems many may have taken for granted. It compromises what I would call 'digital transparency' and the freedom to openly cross-communicate ideas and opinions throughout the noosphere. This should be considered a universal right, not an incidental luxury to the have nations and tribes of the world...
Wi aM hEFF! ...yes I do. I come from a large family that's spread across Canada, so it became the easiest way to stay in touch with them all, as well as friends (I've relocated to different provinces a few times myself...)
Wi aM hEFF! ...if, in the great digital awakening of the 21st century, one of the biggest 'lightbulbs' to come on over our collective heads is our surprising emotional vulnerability to social media bubbles, then in Facebook, where this was so publicly reported as rife, there is potential to at least render them fairly transparent.
Whereas from this early cursory look, it seems MeWe was designed from the getgo to to be a 'hard bubble factory'. Near perfect, conceptually, for the more closed-minded orators, seeking by invitation only a captive, like-minded audience, without fear of open challenges from the prying eyes of 'nonaligned' passerby outsiders...
For many apps, we know going in we'll be inundated with ads. But the things I really don't like about Facebook actually have more to do with functional control: as in, control of the algorithms behind the chronic resorting/requeing and content selection for our general newsfeed. At least Facebook offers a manual toggle to look at your feed in chronological order. Twitter handles this much better, in that it's default is chronological, with anchored placeholder to return you right to where you left off in the feed, along with 'jump to top' and 'what you missed' links. Twitter surfing is therefore more effective, in my mind, even though in the end you're surfing pretty shallow content. I imagine the G+ people who criticised me for not being terse enough would very much love it there...
...and from what I can tell, MeWe is so embryonic, it has not finished crossing that design bridge yet...
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Both seem to have serious flaws, at this point. MeWe parts are transitory; they can't be shared, linked, bookmarked, or discovered by search engines. That's a lot like Alzheimer's, using your brain metaphor.
ReplyDeletePluspora posts and comments can't be edited. I'm not sure what the neurological equivalent would be. Tourettes Syndrome, perhaps? The rigidity of old age? I don't know.
But I hope that both of those problems can be fixed.
Neither platform provides you with a public presence. Both seem to be closed ecosystems.
ReplyDeleteEdgar Brown How is Pluspora not a public presence? I did see that there are permalinks for posts there. What did I miss?
ReplyDeletePeter Maranci mmm... I looked and did not see a way. But I guess you have to know what to click (the area to see the right of the poster at the head of the post). pluspora.com - First thoughts on Diaspora
ReplyDeleteThe issue of editable post on Pluspora will be solved soon. MeWe non sharable links is part of its based concept.
ReplyDeleteI see Pluspora much more adaptable and evoluting than MeWe. Plus, you can communicate with the rest of Diaspora (a lot of French are on Frama for example) and the Fediverse.
Pat Johnston Have you tried either of them?
ReplyDeleteWi aM hEFF! ...so far, just MeWe. My first impression is that, compared to G+, I find it pretty limiting, but to be fair I've not done much in it. It looks like it's in an early development state, with a 'public square' type feed still to come (as I understand it) - so additional features could still be added to make it more robust, traceable, etc., and on par with G+.
ReplyDeleteBut the intentionally designed lack of inter-platform connectivity at it's core is a big red flag to me. I think this is an aspect of G+ that it seems many may have taken for granted. It compromises what I would call 'digital transparency' and the freedom to openly cross-communicate ideas and opinions throughout the noosphere. This should be considered a universal right, not an incidental luxury to the have nations and tribes of the world...
Pat Johnston Do you use fb?
ReplyDeleteWi aM hEFF! ...yes I do. I come from a large family that's spread across Canada, so it became the easiest way to stay in touch with them all, as well as friends (I've relocated to different provinces a few times myself...)
ReplyDeleteWi aM hEFF! ...if, in the great digital awakening of the 21st century, one of the biggest 'lightbulbs' to come on over our collective heads is our surprising emotional vulnerability to social media bubbles, then in Facebook, where this was so publicly reported as rife, there is potential to at least render them fairly transparent.
ReplyDeleteWhereas from this early cursory look, it seems MeWe was designed from the getgo to to be a 'hard bubble factory'. Near perfect, conceptually, for the more closed-minded orators, seeking by invitation only a captive, like-minded audience, without fear of open challenges from the prying eyes of 'nonaligned' passerby outsiders...
For many apps, we know going in we'll be inundated with ads. But the things I really don't like about Facebook actually have more to do with functional control: as in, control of the algorithms behind the chronic resorting/requeing and content selection for our general newsfeed. At least Facebook offers a manual toggle to look at your feed in chronological order. Twitter handles this much better, in that it's default is chronological, with anchored placeholder to return you right to where you left off in the feed, along with 'jump to top' and 'what you missed' links. Twitter surfing is therefore more effective, in my mind, even though in the end you're surfing pretty shallow content. I imagine the G+ people who criticised me for not being terse enough would very much love it there...
...and from what I can tell, MeWe is so embryonic, it has not finished crossing that design bridge yet...