I will join another social network only if:
a) It's decentralized and opensourced.
b) It has the proper tools to import my G+ Collections. (I maintained various Collections with thousands of posts)
Otherwise I will revert to blogging in WordPress.
As about the G+ I will stay till the last day for three reasons:
1)I love G+ so much and the natural thing to do for something we love is to be there at its dying process, the same thing we do when somebody we love is dying.
2)Ten months is an adequate time and an opportunity to know better the beloved die hard users of G+ and cultivate human relationships with people I otherwise wouldn't have the incentive to know.
(So here a suggestion: let's all follow each other in this community till we reach the limit of 5 thousands!)
3)To show Google that this was the biggest mistake she made in her history. When you create a platform that inspires so much devotion even after the announcement of its imminent demise, that's a living proof that this platform should never have been shut down.
I am well aware that my attitude is irrational, based on a well studied brain mechanism called denial and denial is the first thing that arises in deep mourning. But I can't do otherwise and for those who have the same attitude they can follow me and I will follow them back.
I will keep on posting in my G+ like nothing happened.
Love to you all!
Hear hear
ReplyDeleteHi Greg Batmarx ! I would love to get the post below on your radar. Thanks!
ReplyDeletehttps://plus.google.com/114684636648809113021/posts/EHas3XsR9mY
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Good luck finding that.
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agreed
ReplyDeleteYeah. I see little reason to rush for the exits.
ReplyDeleteThere is a nigerian proverb saying, in pidgin "na condition make crayfish bend"
ReplyDeleteFresh shrimps have a straight body. They bend in the frying pan.
When you have not much choice, you have to bend a little (or a lot)...
I went to Pluspora, there is no way to correct my posts and still a lot of limitations but I bend. MeWe didn't allow me to register. After browsing through Minds, I found a bunch of pedantic snobbish Californian hipsters. So, Pluspora is kinda OK.
For community and collections, honestly, these are features which broke for initial philosophy of Google Plus, purely based on circles. So, I am very happy it is not available.
I'm with you! No point in leaving until they shut the lights off.
ReplyDeleteIs there really any other social media with even use of collections?
ReplyDeleteJim Philips There's rushing to the exits, and there's exploring the fairly complex space of options available and coming to a sensible consensus -- either overall or within sub-groups.
ReplyDeleteTen months can fly past more quickly than you'd think, and having to make a mad dash at the end rather than sensibly winding up affairs earlier can be discomfitting.
Plan ahead.
Not everyone can or will assess the alternatives, but for those of us with the time and inclination, it's useful to others.
Uzy Y'know, much as I hate to say it, I think the idea came from Pinterest. That's not a text-oriented site, and I avoid it pretty much at all costs, but it's pretty much nothing but collections.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone knows of others, chime in.
For those planning on staying to the end, some suggestions:
ReplyDelete1. Start exporting your data from Google using Data Take out now. This is not entirely straightforward, it breaks, it's hard to sort out what to do with the extracts, and the dumps are often incomplete. You actually want to practice this a few times.
(I've used Google Data Take Out in the past, but I've not yet made a current dump.)
2. Start looking at the alternative sites. We're working on setting up a comparison spreadsheet and compiling features and concerns lists.
3. If you do have alternative locations and services you use, start posting those to your G+ profile either publicly (if you are comfortable with that) or to your (selected) Circles so that friends and followers can find you there.
4. Take note of your friends' own remote accounts as well.
5. There may be some temporary regrouping spaces. Almost certainly Facebook and Twitter for some of you. Diaspora, Mastodon, and MeWe are being mentioned. Establishing a hashtag or community for people to regroup is going to help a lot -- meeting up on the other side may well be easier than gathering up addresses here.
(I ... don't entirely like how this sounds like some sort of Millenial Cult, but so be it....)
6. It's likely to start emptying out here, possibly fairly rapidly. Once it's clear the party's over, folks start heading for the exits. So your plans to stay through to the end might not be overly fruitful.
7. On the other hand, quiet places populated by the fiercely loyal can have their own charm. My sense is that this will make the final exit more painful, rather than less. Though you might enjoy the memories later.
Edward Morbius regarding point 6, plenty of communities and (business) accounts already have announced an immediate halt of their activities here on GPlus, such as Backblaze , HQSP Macro and at least several others in my Stream.
ReplyDeleteFilip H.F. Slagter Corollary of Sunk Cost Fallacy: Don't pour money into a sinking ship.
ReplyDeleteI expect to see far more of this.
Edward Morbius Thanks for your suggestions. They are useful and practical. But I don't agree that those who will stay here till the end will have a hard time. Quite the contrary.
ReplyDeleteI wrote this reply addressing a different comment in a different post but I think as a reply it suits your comment too:
_What you wrote is reasonable and rational. Yet we aren't always reasonable and rational beings towards things we love and I didn't deny that my stance is irrational in many ways.
I tried to be reasonable and rational like you and if you check my G+ page you can see that my initial reaction to the terrible news was to quit and never post again. But the day after, I felt that this reaction was cynical and I can't be cynical towards things I love.
Even for purely emotional reasons, it's not a waste of time to keep on posting on a dying platform that we loved so much. Remarkably I discovered that this isn't as crazy as I first thought. Unexpectedly, I discovered that there are so many people who against all odds they kept on posting while mourning the imminent demise. For those people, G+ is their internet home they refuse to abandon. And this stubbornness brought people together.
There is a surreal joy in seeing your followers to increase in an officially dying platform and more importantly to feel these followers as real persons with whom you share a common passion and not as abstract numbers.
Because, at the end, it's not about the platform but about the awesome people who supported it and this stance brings these people together in a way that wasn't feasible when we deemed the platform alive.
But there is more! If this stance becomes widespread, more pleasantly surreal things will come. This could escalate to a revolt of G+ users who instead of giving up, they increase their engagement. Imagine the headlines two months from now: G+ Users Refuse to Give Up, The Ghost Town Strikes Back 😃 This will put more pressure on Google to treat us with respect and even to reexamine her decision.
I know that this is a very low probability and a wild dream but what have we to lose?
In any case, we will find ways to transfer our work from here to other platforms and nothing will be lost.
What's more crucial to me, is to make the ride to the fatal end as pleasant and beautiful as it gets. That means to come together and party in G+ like it's the end of world. And for G+, it's the end of the world...
Everything ends at some time. But to misquote Rose Traimen _don't plan the ending. It has to be earned by all that will go before it. _
We have 10 months to use this platform to become better humans and to deepen our human connections._
Oh, I'll continue to post until this place isn't here. Meanwhile, I'm watching to see where "most people" go. It looks like Pluspora and MeWe are getting most of the focus. (I'll go to whichever site doesn't require a lot of technical input.)
ReplyDeleteSteve Vasta Any comments on pluspora itself? This is the first I heard of it.
ReplyDeletePluspora is a diaspora* pod/server created by and for GPlus users. Haven't used Pluspora myself, as I already had an account on another diaspora* pod, but content posted on one federated diaspora* pod should automatically propagate to other federated pods.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't (yet?) support communities, though some would argue that each individual pod is a community on its own. Check the various reviews about Pluspora/Diaspora* in this community for more info :)
[ Dude ] Enough with the memes, please.
ReplyDeleteThis post (including most of the comments here) is the most sensible and level-headed advice that I've seen so far! We have ten months, people! As my late father used to tell me as a boy, "Haste makes waste". Who knows what good solutions will be found?
ReplyDeleteFilip H.F. Slagter I sm experimenting with Pluspora.
ReplyDeleteNot bad not awesome. If they are able to scale up and do some enhancements it could be one decent option.
It's funny how techies are looking for features rather than people.
ReplyDeleteOlivier Malinur It's both. Features matter, exposing these to people helps inform choices.
ReplyDeleteAvailability heuristics, too.
When you said "heuristics," you lost me.
ReplyDeleteSteve Vasta "Availability heuristic" basically means "gathering information and/or making decisions based on what's most immediately or inexpensively available".
ReplyDeleteThe drunk looking for his keys under the streetlight because that's where the light is, making it easier to look, despite the fact that that's not where he dropped his keys, is engaging an availability heuristic.
The cost is lower, but the benefit is lower. Or in the drunk's case, zero.
Saying "availability heuristic" saves me three paragraphs.
Which is an availability heuristic.
Edward Morbius unless you have to explain it 😂
ReplyDeleteFilip H.F. Slagter Twice!
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Great post!
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