Keep access to G+ and Hangouts after they close for consumers!
This may look a tad subversive at the moment, but even after giving it a closer look, I can't see why it shouldn't work:
* Set up and register a real non-profit foundation
* Open a G Suite account for the non-profit
* Give every member of the foundation an account
* Keep access to G+ and Hangouts after they close for consumers
Non-Profit!
https://support.google.com/nonprofits/answer/3367223?hl=en&ref_topic=3247651
This may look a tad subversive at the moment, but even after giving it a closer look, I can't see why it shouldn't work:
* Set up and register a real non-profit foundation
* Open a G Suite account for the non-profit
* Give every member of the foundation an account
* Keep access to G+ and Hangouts after they close for consumers
Non-Profit!
https://support.google.com/nonprofits/answer/3367223?hl=en&ref_topic=3247651
Except only the members of the non-profit with an account can see and interact with one another. This is not a publicly accessible option.
ReplyDeleteNot saying it won't work, but it is more limited than "just recreate G+ through G Suite"
Craig Shaw That's a valid point. If the bylaws of the foundation state that every member agrees to have its postings made public, one could simple mirror the internal contents on the foundation's website. That way it would become public and might attract new members for the foundation.
ReplyDeleteRight now, G Suite content (like this comment or any of my posts) most certainly can be publicly seen, if the G Suite admin (that’s me) gives users that ability. I really can’t imagine why Google would turn that off, since it would prevent organizations from using G+ to collaborate with each other.
ReplyDeleteGoogle Drive, Google Photos, Google Calendar and most other G Suite apps all allow public sharing of information.
Apart from the fact that you'd need to pay for a Google account within the non-profit's domain (because having a GSuite account will only give you access to other G+ users on the same domain), there's no way to move your G+ profile from one account to another.
ReplyDeleteAlthough Google may provide tools to export your own data from G+, they are under no obligation to provide an import to a GSuite account, and you will not be able to export other people's data.
You wouldn't retain all your circles, communities, etc. because there's no way to relate people's existing accounts with potential GSuite ones, even if everybody created a GSuite account in the same non-profit's domain.
Julie Wills A few corrections from someone who runs non-profit G Suite domains (me):
ReplyDelete“you'd need to pay for a Google account within the non-profit's domain”
G Suite for Non-Profits is free to US 501(c)3 organizations. You would not have to pay, unless you wanted to start your own personal G Suite domain that wasn’t a non-profit.
”having a GSuite account will only give you access to other G+ users on the same domain”
That is simply not true today. G Suite users can access information from G Suite users in other domains and organizations if the domain admin has enabled that feature and the specific information has been shared publicly by a user. (See any of my G+ posts, for example). Currently, that includes many G Suite core apps such as Google Drive, Google Photos, Google Calendar, and G+. I would be very surprised if Google removes this capability, since cross-enterprise communication is one of the most valuable parts of G Suite.
”there's no way to move your G+ profile from one account to another.”
Unfortunately, this is true, so one would have to start over from scratch. Fortunately for me, I already did this on November 1, 2011, when I switched to using my G Suite account (although it was called Google Apps back then).
Brian Holt Hawthorne Thanks for the correction re point 1.
ReplyDeletePoint 2 is an best guess of what the situation will be after next August (while we await clarification from Google, but it seems the most likely intention). As a GSuite user myself, you're obviously right. It is not true today
I'd consider mass migration to G-Suite accounts of a non-profit organization/foundation (to be founded) an excellent solution.
ReplyDeleteThis foundation could also develop/finance the required import tool.
Stefan Quandt There isn’t time to found a new non-profit, get IRS 501(c)3 approval, and get the G Suite for non-profits setup. This would require an existing 501(c)3 to decide that its mission justified providing this service. IRS approval can take many months. Getting an existing non-profit setup on G Suite takes just a few weeks. Adding a new domain to an existing non-profit already approved for G Suite takes minutes.
ReplyDeleteI manage a small but multi-domain non-profit G Suite account (where multi equals 2), however the non-profit’s articles of incorporation and bylaws would not justify providing g Suite accounts to individuals world-wide.
Brian Holt Hawthorne As far as I can see, the non-profit clause does not specifically require the non-profit to be located in the US. It is far easier to found a non-profit with tax exemption in Austria or Germany, for example.
ReplyDeletePeter Lemken Regardless of any of that, you'd be starting from scratch with G+. There is no way to "upgrade" or transfer an existing consumer account to a GSuite (or any other) Google account, so any user in your domain would be a new G+ user.
ReplyDeletePeter Lemken Google now uses a third-party verifier, TechSoup, to verify non-profits: support.google.com - Sign up for Google for Nonprofits - Nonprofits Help
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