Martin Krischik The list is limited to 5 options. To not mention the bigger ones makes no sense. I included MeWe because it’s very near to Google+ and will get something like collections in the near future.
What's the rush? None are a drop-in replacement for G+ today. None of them have the infrastructure to absorb all the G+ refugees in one gulp. Even the famously decentralized Diaspora is going to need dozens, if not hundreds, of new nodes/pods/whatever. All are going to need G+ refugees to agitate for missing features.
Join them all, a few, one, or none and watch what happens to each in the coming months/years.
Kanati Siqua'Uyetsga we have to start looking at other options now, if we wait too long then Google plus will be shut down and we won't talk to any of our friends here ever again.
Sites like MeWe aren't there yet, but have the potential to be good alternaatives, they are mostly missing the users.
Kanati Siqua'Uyetsga Nobody talked about a rush. A poll just reflects feelings/decisions and so it’s interesting to see what people vote for and what they write in comments. That’s all.
Jason Wiltjer there is no official app but the one that I and others I know use is called "Diaspora Native WebApp available in the Google Play store. It works alright. No push notifications though, only email notifs.
Thomas Unterstenhoefer yes. It was posted by the owners in the stats report yesterday. This is an automated reporting for all the diaspora and Federation pods. Now there is interest in going to 10k and seeing if other developers can open up more pods that can talk to each other.
It's looking like MeWe followed by Friendica (ISurfSocial) & Diaspora (Pluspora). I'm throwing MINDS under the bus because it's too commercial and the interface. But I'm moving in these case mostly because the this is where the people and groups I care about here are going.
I just found out that you can use wiki markup for text formatting in MeWe! :)
Thomas Unterstenhoefer yes. But it seems like Google+ user don't like the big three (Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr). And that's not really a surprise. We wouldn't be on Google+ if we liked any of yhe big three.
Laura Ess Friendica and Diaspora are potentially go to have pods connect thru. There is a very active group of developers working on multiple strategies for adding on far many more refugees. And the advantages in those platforms mean there is more opportunities to include the features most refugees miss. This isn’t quite the case with MeWe. Freedom from data collection of the users is a big deal.
cobalt please Yes, I can see both are the case. This is why instead of just one destination I have a mix. It seems I might be able to forward post from Friendica to Diaspora (but do that manually on MeWe) so personal or general stuff would be easy to do.
Friendica looks intriguing, but you have to know the markdown, and I haven't got there yet. Interesting times we live in.
I am beginning to like MeWe a lot. I just wish I could vacuum up all my friends on Facebook and put them there instead (or Friendica, but I know which one they'd gravitate to). :D.
But Minds, um, er, no. I think I'll disable it for now.
“+Martin Krischik The list is limited to 5 options. To not mention the bigger ones makes no sense. I included MeWe because it’s very near to Google+ and will get something like collections in the near future.”
Thomas Unterstenhoefer Fair enough, but seeing the results, I think excluding Facebook Twittr and Tumblr makes a lot of sense. They have a tiny number of votes, whereas "Other" is the clear winner.
Hubzilla. Hubzilla can connect to the rest of the Fediverse plus it has an unique feature called "nomadic identity", meaning you can move your identity from one hub to another without disruption - you also can use both hubs, effectively mirroring your channel
The Diaspora apps on Google Play is just a junk. Completely useless. I try to use Dandelion. I search for Pluspora but it is not in the list of available pods.
Olivier Malinur Many people on pluspora find it far easier to bookmark or send to your home screen. You don't need an app to access it or work with it. That's what I do. My iPhone has several browsers that work just fine.
Nien Nunb Whatever you see on my MeWe account is what is in the .45 mb. That's it. I love gifs and that is what I post the most. I need space!
I'm on Minds and it is the most like Google+ out of the platforms I've tried: MeWe and Pluspora. MeWe is a Facebook experience to me...I have a longstanding Facebook account for family and friends and am an Admin for a group there.
I am exploring the Minds' Videos tab right now. There's tabs for Images, Blogs and Groups too. I don't like the Minds newsfeed because of too much repetition of boosted posts that recycle every so many posts. Now I am just going to my subscribers' pages and clicking on other accounts that appear there.
Jannik Lindquist They are also compressed on Microsoft One Drive but good quality images (4MB) are still 2MB in size. That’s why I talked about an average file size,
G+ for as long as there are people here to play with. Then probably just using Feedly to follow blogs and journals and commenting directly there. Social media are dead.
Just figured out that in addition to following RSS blogs and Dreamwidth journals on Feedly, I can also follow both diaspora and Mastodon feeds in Feedly as well, so at a minimum I’ll be following people that way, and using their posts as the impetus for an occasional dive into the respective comment streams. That kind of leaves MeWe out as they have no RSS or Atom syndication.
I refuse to use a platform that claims to have safety and security in mind but won’t let me use a pseudonym. I might as well be on Facebook.
And I tried MeWe out but, aside from three posts, two of which were from MeWe, I could see nothing.
I immediately deleted my profile and went to Pluspora.
I’m not sure why, if you are truly interested in where people are migrating to, you are pushing MeWe and pooh-poohing Pluspora (or Diaspora). If 5000 of us are there and like it, you have to accept that it is an option that we like.
It has some areas that need beefing up (no blocking - “Ignore” is not quite the same -, no push alerts, no comment “liking”, and a few other things) but I’m happy. So are a lot of other people.
MeWe sounds like a DVD parents buy to potty train their toddlers.
I'm not really keen on Diaspora or its branches, it looks a huge mess GUI-wise. I've been on Twitter since 2007 but don't post anything of value there much, and I hadn't been really active on FB since about 2012, and killed off my acct in March.
G+ was the only real social network for me (1st day of private beta, June 28, 2011) and it was more the way we could conenct to new people, and the interface I liked. And Hangouts (yes I know Hangouts aren't going away yet but it's all different now, since the integration of them with G+ is nonexistent--and additionally, I'm looking to de-Googlify my life, it's a big job)
I started using Minds around March of last year, because I'd started to learn about Google's (the company) true colors somewhere around 2016, and Minds was being mentioned a lot as a good option. I'm still not quite sure what I'm doing but so far, no real complaints. I'd love to learn the crypto stuff, as far as for how that works with my tokens.
Bobbi Jo Woods You can use Feedly with its nice UI to read diaspora, Dreamwidth, Mastodon, tumblr, and Wordpress blogs and only have to venture into their respective sites or apps if you want to comment or read the comments. Doesn’t work with MeWe.
Originally, I was about to choose MeWe; however, I recently read that the founder of MeWe did not respond to a question regarding whether the sources of his funding included any intelligence agencies, even though he responded to all other questions. It seems that his funding includes intelligence agencies; therefore, I most likely will not choose MeWe.
Olivier Malinur I use Dandelion on two of my android devices. If you are already on a Diaspora pod, there are plenty of people that can help you with a couple of finer points. It pretty much works the way I use G+ on my phone, even sharing news articles I end up reading in Chrome.
It's not perfect, but it is a pretty great user experience once you get the hang of it - especially for an open source Android App being developed by someone as part of a hobby.
Diaspora on the other hand has some issues. I'm hoping G+ refugees more articulate than myself can convince devs to take on new and improved user experience features.
I'm not sure I trust MeWe any more than I trust Facebook - and I deleted my dominant Facebook account a while ago on principal.
Facebook is a technology transmitted disease. Using it without a digital condom just threatens the well being of your friends and family. Facebook is some bad hombres. Sad.
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MeWe is gaining traction, I have an Android community there that has gotten over 100 new members in like 2 days.
ReplyDeleteMeWe and minds.com - Minds and Gab.
ReplyDeleteMinds. Maybe Steemit or one of it's clones.
ReplyDelete42% Other 😂 someone made the wrong list.
Pluspora just hit over 5,000 refugees from G+.
ReplyDeletecobalt please does that have an app?
ReplyDeleteMartin Krischik The list is limited to 5 options. To not mention the bigger ones makes no sense. I included MeWe because it’s very near to Google+ and will get something like collections in the near future.
ReplyDeleteMany of us on the big communities are over there checking out MeWe.
ReplyDeletecobalt please Is there any proof for this number?
ReplyDeleteThe only reason I use G+ is for the communities and the discussions on them. I am also on FB for family and a few close friends.
ReplyDeletePam Mitchell MeWe has groups = communities on G+.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the rush? None are a drop-in replacement for G+ today. None of them have the infrastructure to absorb all the G+ refugees in one gulp. Even the famously decentralized Diaspora is going to need dozens, if not hundreds, of new nodes/pods/whatever. All are going to need G+ refugees to agitate for missing features.
ReplyDeleteJoin them all, a few, one, or none and watch what happens to each in the coming months/years.
Kanati Siqua'Uyetsga we have to start looking at other options now, if we wait too long then Google plus will be shut down and we won't talk to any of our friends here ever again.
ReplyDeleteSites like MeWe aren't there yet, but have the potential to be good alternaatives, they are mostly missing the users.
Kanati Siqua'Uyetsga Nobody talked about a rush. A poll just reflects feelings/decisions and so it’s interesting to see what people vote for and what they write in comments. That’s all.
ReplyDeleteJason Wiltjer there is no official app but the one that I and others I know use is called "Diaspora Native WebApp available in the Google Play store. It works alright. No push notifications though, only email notifs.
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer yes. It was posted by the owners in the stats report yesterday. This is an automated reporting for all the diaspora and Federation pods. Now there is interest in going to 10k and seeing if other developers can open up more pods that can talk to each other.
ReplyDeleteIt's looking like MeWe followed by Friendica (ISurfSocial) & Diaspora (Pluspora). I'm throwing MINDS under the bus because it's too commercial and the interface. But I'm moving in these case mostly because the this is where the people and groups I care about here are going.
ReplyDeleteI just found out that you can use wiki markup for text formatting in MeWe! :)
Thomas Unterstenhoefer yes. But it seems like Google+ user don't like the big three (Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr). And that's not really a surprise. We wouldn't be on Google+ if we liked any of yhe big three.
ReplyDeleteLaura Ess Friendica and Diaspora are potentially go to have pods connect thru. There is a very active group of developers working on multiple strategies for adding on far many more refugees. And the advantages in those platforms mean there is more opportunities to include the features most refugees miss. This isn’t quite the case with MeWe. Freedom from data collection of the users is a big deal.
ReplyDeleteOnce your storage on MeWe reaches 8 gigs, you either delete content or pay a monthly cloud storage fee. Here's the MeWe storage rates you'll see by clicking on the Cloud button on your MeWe page.
ReplyDeletehttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WH6XG4CxB7bx42SzjCDWVdAbBfWPYqRWYISyeghGRx4e6aAhQ_WYS7Y5obVP-pfqr5JPd1EtVi0o5kk=s0
cobalt please Yes, I can see both are the case. This is why instead of just one destination I have a mix. It seems I might be able to forward post from Friendica to Diaspora (but do that manually on MeWe) so personal or general stuff would be easy to do.
ReplyDeleteFriendica looks intriguing, but you have to know the markdown, and I haven't got there yet. Interesting times we live in.
I am beginning to like MeWe a lot. I just wish I could vacuum up all my friends on Facebook and put them there instead (or Friendica, but I know which one they'd gravitate to). :D.
But Minds, um, er, no. I think I'll disable it for now.
If you're going to have a poll like this, you really should include Diapora/Pluspora, Minds, and maybe Friendica/Nerdica.
ReplyDeleteI'm on Pluspora. I also have accounts on MeWe and Facebook, but I wouldn't call them my home yet.
Martijn Vos
ReplyDeleteThis is what I already commented:
“+Martin Krischik The list is limited to 5 options. To not mention the bigger ones makes no sense. I included MeWe because it’s very near to Google+ and will get something like collections in the near future.”
Minds seems to have the biggest similarities to Google+
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer Fair enough, but seeing the results, I think excluding Facebook Twittr and Tumblr makes a lot of sense. They have a tiny number of votes, whereas "Other" is the clear winner.
ReplyDeleteMartijn Vos Feel free to make your own poll. My poll just reflects my opinion and preferences.
ReplyDeleteFediverse bzw Federation network
ReplyDeleteFor Diaspora* you can also try the Dandelion app. Not sure if it's on Google Play store, but it's at least on the FOSS alternative F-Droid app store.
ReplyDeleteKlaus Guhr Maybe but I’m not looking for “not bad” homes but good ones. :)
ReplyDeletePluspora. It seems Pluspora / Diaspora will be more European while MeWe will be more US.
ReplyDeleteCuan Knaggs , did you find Pluspora in this apps? Maybe I miss something?
ReplyDeleteHubzilla. Hubzilla can connect to the rest of the Fediverse plus it has an unique feature called "nomadic identity", meaning you can move your identity from one hub to another without disruption - you also can use both hubs, effectively mirroring your channel
ReplyDeleteCan't find it.
ReplyDeleteOlivier Malinur Pluspora is a node/pod of diaspora. Get the diaspora app and enter pluspora.com
ReplyDeleteCuan Knaggs Pluspora has a size limit for gif posts. If they are over that size you have to post a link.
ReplyDeleteThe Diaspora apps on Google Play is just a junk. Completely useless.
ReplyDeleteI try to use Dandelion. I search for Pluspora but it is not in the list of available pods.
Facebook. I don't want to migrate everytime.
ReplyDeleteOlivier Malinur Many people on pluspora find it far easier to bookmark or send to your home screen. You don't need an app to access it or work with it. That's what I do. My iPhone has several browsers that work just fine.
ReplyDeleteKathie Gifford Hello. I got a question.
ReplyDeleteHow many pics did you upload so far to reach
0.45 MB out of 8 GB ??
An image has an average file size of 2MB. So you can upload up to 4,000 images on a 8GB storage.
ReplyDeleteNien Nunb Whatever you see on my MeWe account is what is in the .45 mb. That's it. I love gifs and that is what I post the most. I need space!
ReplyDeleteI'm on Minds and it is the most like Google+ out of the platforms I've tried: MeWe and Pluspora. MeWe is a Facebook experience to me...I have a longstanding Facebook account for family and friends and am an Admin for a group there.
I am exploring the Minds' Videos tab right now. There's tabs for Images, Blogs and Groups too. I don't like the Minds newsfeed because of too much repetition of boosted posts that recycle every so many posts. Now I am just going to my subscribers' pages and clicking on other accounts that appear there.
Kathie Gifford
ReplyDeletethanks for your helpful explanation.
Unfortunately im not on MeWe yet.
So cant see your MeWe account i guess..?
Nien Nunb Here's a screen print. There's one gif there.
ReplyDeletehttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uip0ChA6PJ3EKPOkspkO-vCiCFnEAOoogTZjqfzM3HrpA61DhVV2DCWaD_2OV5D_Q4LPJuodzw82BAc=s0
Kathie Gifford thank you for showing me.
ReplyDeleteInterface looks interesting
Twitter will be my primary home. The news feeds, national and local, is the best.
ReplyDeleteI chose other because I'll be here till it's dead. Otherwise MeWe has been a good choice. I'd probably hit 8gb into 5 maybe 6 years, so I'm good.
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer Images get compressed when uploaded to MeWe. On average they end up at something like 500kb.
ReplyDeleteAdmiral Taptap Hahahaha :-) I have been on MeWe since March and I have never seen any of those. Are you sure, you joined the right groups? :-)
ReplyDeleteJannik Lindquist They are also compressed on Microsoft One Drive but good quality images (4MB) are still 2MB in size. That’s why I talked about an average file size,
ReplyDeleteSexy Irresistible I don’t accept self-promotion on my posts. So I blocked you and deleted your comment.
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer Respectfully, your estimate for average image size on MeWe is wrong, in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteAdmiral Taptap I don’t like fake information.
ReplyDeleteJannik Lindquist That’s not a question of MeWe but the compressibility rate for HQ images which are posted in groups which topic is photography, etc
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer Well - I challenge you to find an image on MeWe which is larger than 1mb :-)
ReplyDeleteDiaspora.
ReplyDeleteG+ for as long as there are people here to play with. Then probably just using Feedly to follow blogs and journals and commenting directly there. Social media are dead.
ReplyDeleteReally, the answer is ETER9, but MeWe looks like it'll attract more former Plussers, so I'll be on both.
ReplyDeleteneed category "undecided"
ReplyDeleteJust figured out that in addition to following RSS blogs and Dreamwidth journals on Feedly, I can also follow both diaspora and Mastodon feeds in Feedly as well, so at a minimum I’ll be following people that way, and using their posts as the impetus for an occasional dive into the respective comment streams. That kind of leaves MeWe out as they have no RSS or Atom syndication.
ReplyDeleteI refuse to use a platform that claims to have safety and security in mind but won’t let me use a pseudonym. I might as well be on Facebook.
ReplyDeleteAnd I tried MeWe out but, aside from three posts, two of which were from MeWe, I could see nothing.
I immediately deleted my profile and went to Pluspora.
I’m not sure why, if you are truly interested in where people are migrating to, you are pushing MeWe and pooh-poohing Pluspora (or Diaspora). If 5000 of us are there and like it, you have to accept that it is an option that we like.
It has some areas that need beefing up (no blocking - “Ignore” is not quite the same -, no push alerts, no comment “liking”, and a few other things) but I’m happy. So are a lot of other people.
Minds
ReplyDeleteMudhooks cant use pseudonym for MeWe ?
ReplyDeleteNien Nunb Sure you can. You can also different pseudonyms with the same account on a per-Group basis.
ReplyDeleteGabe Andrews The crypto influx on Minds slowed for me considerably. Not sure it's worth it if I can't even afford a Plus account.
ReplyDeleteNien Nunb No. They required my name.
ReplyDeleteEli Fennell Well. That wasn’t the impression I got when I signed up.
ReplyDeleteI wasn’t impressed. Flat out.
Mudhooks I liked the UI, but not much else has appealed to me, and the crypto thing seems worthless to me.
ReplyDeleteum well you say Mudhooks i cant use
ReplyDeletepseudonym whil Eli Fennell says i can
use pseudo. right. um so? 🤔 😆✌
maybe im wrong
Nien Nunb I tried to use a pseudonym and couldn’t. It required my name. That was my experience.
ReplyDeleteTough nuggets.
I didn’t like MeWe. I’m not going to apologize for the fact that I didn’t like it.
😂😆😂😆😆🤯😆🤣🤭🤭🤮👽🤣🤓👽🤮🤮🤣🤯😆😆
Mudhooks no thing 😆✌
ReplyDeleteI'm still very insecure about MeWe.
No pseudonyms no MeWe. that simple.
Thanks for your help friend
Thomas Unterstenhoefer our Pluspora pod stats are available publicly in a link called "pod statistics" at the bottom of every page on desktop view. I just snapped this one now:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c-HP8SlymPp5XjzCxL2tBmezLlz9znwD5cmeHxM6qnXvOOsRrp1je9lZFD-gEc80jr__-1kszGE5tPze6O5zeSVPZSQTQontwZGY=s0
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer our Pluspora pod stats are available publicly in a link called "pod statistics" at the bottom of every page on desktop view. I just snapped this one now:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vx_-n-5PifY8AsxHrnlT0B1dooMtaetOPygRibLPf0EbnUIVVUAtXaVmgqhsUpBgsBRgIRuMabaMd_7rFSn85KcgU-p4WZUR3Rs3=s0
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer our Pluspora pod stats are available publicly in a link called "pod statistics" at the bottom of every page on desktop view. I just snapped this one now:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BjaHVJNSFG7TadH7XB72Ck1Cb_ydye5GgyC4d8C39aFev72swP2Z99zwR2FiaGX7sRdJqM3arlBZhyZPMvA7prYFacTzNClQY43E=s0
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer our Pluspora pod stats are available publicly in a link called "pod statistics" at the bottom of every page on desktop view. I just snapped this one now:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kzje88Pn6dS79oMaJOLWT-4XkxCPGtgN2Od8-lNZWcLYLmbp3HBUFcp91MvEcxrbEt0mH_LXQYCgpUUWdRScHMeRPzA9EqHO2KdI=s0
ReplyDeleteThomas Unterstenhoefer our Pluspora pod stats are available publicly in a link called "pod statistics" at the bottom of every page on desktop view. I just snapped this one now:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/l5QQT_BrFcT7jAaIwnBPw1ZaXpWVbbIQpyCJ4QxKhVs3_dqiYIoaS6avWK0-xq1qC8Y7IgnXEIAtTT5FmZyNdx9gLqCfvAxcnL4H=s0
ReplyDeleteMeWe sounds like a DVD parents buy to potty train their toddlers.
ReplyDeleteI'm not really keen on Diaspora or its branches, it looks a huge mess GUI-wise. I've been on Twitter since 2007 but don't post anything of value there much, and I hadn't been really active on FB since about 2012, and killed off my acct in March.
G+ was the only real social network for me (1st day of private beta, June 28, 2011) and it was more the way we could conenct to new people, and the interface I liked. And Hangouts (yes I know Hangouts aren't going away yet but it's all different now, since the integration of them with G+ is nonexistent--and additionally, I'm looking to de-Googlify my life, it's a big job)
I started using Minds around March of last year, because I'd started to learn about Google's (the company) true colors somewhere around 2016, and Minds was being mentioned a lot as a good option. I'm still not quite sure what I'm doing but so far, no real complaints. I'd love to learn the crypto stuff, as far as for how that works with my tokens.
minds.com - mnkeeperb | Minds
Bobbi Jo Woods You can use Feedly with its nice UI to read diaspora, Dreamwidth, Mastodon, tumblr, and Wordpress blogs and only have to venture into their respective sites or apps if you want to comment or read the comments. Doesn’t work with MeWe.
ReplyDeleteDammit, Eli Fennell - all I can find for reviews on ETER9 is this video lmao...
ReplyDeleteyoutube.com - Eter 9 Social Network O my god world 1st video my youtube channel in hindi urdu
Bobbi Jo Woods Oh, god, that's awful!
ReplyDeleteHere's the User Guide I wrote: http://elifennell.com/eter9-user-guide/
Eli Fennell thank you sir
ReplyDeleteMost likely, I shall choose pluspora.
ReplyDeleteOriginally, I was about to choose MeWe; however, I recently read that the founder of MeWe did not respond to a question regarding whether the sources of his funding included any intelligence agencies, even though he responded to all other questions. It seems that his funding includes intelligence agencies; therefore, I most likely will not choose MeWe.
Wow, Hubzilla looks a lot like Google+ early beta
ReplyDeletehttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/J69Cz2F12t7rM1W7hcgdnLJK77Jso4yvB_XrvNkKqriacoVgslkFvfpWm5zChxsS5__ZOdmU_qkQXNM=s0
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ReplyDeleteMastodon has a nice mobile app on iOS. I still haven’t figured out an easy way to use diaspora on a mobile device.
ReplyDeleteBrian Holt Hawthorne Dandelion. You need FDroid to install it.
ReplyDeleteEli Fennell since he mentioned the Mastodon app for iOS, I kinda doubt he was looking for an Android app though. ;)
ReplyDeleteFreakin' iOS, man. It's a fine institution, for people who like being institutionalized...
ReplyDeleteEli Fennell I like diversity. I use all Google apps on iOS.
ReplyDeleteI am trying my luck at MeWe.
ReplyDeletemewe.com - MeWe: The best chat & group app with privacy you trust.
Olivier Malinur I use Dandelion on two of my android devices. If you are already on a Diaspora pod, there are plenty of people that can help you with a couple of finer points. It pretty much works the way I use G+ on my phone, even sharing news articles I end up reading in Chrome.
ReplyDeleteIt's not perfect, but it is a pretty great user experience once you get the hang of it - especially for an open source Android App being developed by someone as part of a hobby.
Diaspora on the other hand has some issues. I'm hoping G+ refugees more articulate than myself can convince devs to take on new and improved user experience features.
I'm not sure I trust MeWe any more than I trust Facebook - and I deleted my dominant Facebook account a while ago on principal.
Facebook is a technology transmitted disease. Using it without a digital condom just threatens the well being of your friends and family. Facebook is some bad hombres. Sad.