Migrating G+ Communities: Community Portability
G+MM have been expanding the Community Migration guide at #PlexodusWiki to provide direct, useful, and actionable information.
It focuses on:
Organising and Timing. Note that timing has been accelerated tremendously. We have 135 days remaining.
Preserving content and data. There is now an available Community export tool. The Friends+Me Google+ Exporter can handle both public and private communities. You'll have to pay ($20) for more than 3,000 posts capacity,. There are multiple examples of ported profiles. The developer is active and responsive on G+.
Preserving the Group. Section still under development, though Google Forms and/or a mailing list are probably your simplest and most effective tools. Keeping tools simple and effective should be a priority.
G+ Community Stats. We've been reviewing old and researching current statistics on G+ communities. We've a good sense of the number and membership distributions, activity and vitality are harder to assess, though there are some indications. Google could help by providing this information based on credible definitions and methodology. We may attempt a larger and deeper analysis in future.
What's been most difficult is getting a sense of G+ communities: contacting moderators, and an overall idea of plans or goals. This isn't just us -- the official Google+ Moderators community has also struggled with this in the past -- and its membership (about 1k) is likely a small fraction of active communities (though probably among the more healthy ones), and outreach overall seems limited.
Is there some Vast Hive of Community Organisation I've missed, or is this it?
We'd really like to know what plans, goals, concerns, resources, groups, etc., exist among the G+ Community population. Again, because direct outreach has been so time-consuming and generally unproductive, we've been focusing attention elsewhere (particularly on Data Takeout and exploring alternatives).
We've explored using a Google Forms survey, which can be useful for data capture, but without effective sampling the results of that don't have much validity or use. I'd be happy to discuss how to proceed on that, and any concerns over data access and use, before exploring that in more depth.
Other than that: hoping for discussion here as to what people are thinking, planning, and doing.
And of course, you're welcome at the Google+ Mass Migration community:
https://plus.google.com/communities/112164273001338979772
https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%2B_Communities
https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%2B_Communities
G+MM have been expanding the Community Migration guide at #PlexodusWiki to provide direct, useful, and actionable information.
It focuses on:
Organising and Timing. Note that timing has been accelerated tremendously. We have 135 days remaining.
Preserving content and data. There is now an available Community export tool. The Friends+Me Google+ Exporter can handle both public and private communities. You'll have to pay ($20) for more than 3,000 posts capacity,. There are multiple examples of ported profiles. The developer is active and responsive on G+.
Preserving the Group. Section still under development, though Google Forms and/or a mailing list are probably your simplest and most effective tools. Keeping tools simple and effective should be a priority.
G+ Community Stats. We've been reviewing old and researching current statistics on G+ communities. We've a good sense of the number and membership distributions, activity and vitality are harder to assess, though there are some indications. Google could help by providing this information based on credible definitions and methodology. We may attempt a larger and deeper analysis in future.
What's been most difficult is getting a sense of G+ communities: contacting moderators, and an overall idea of plans or goals. This isn't just us -- the official Google+ Moderators community has also struggled with this in the past -- and its membership (about 1k) is likely a small fraction of active communities (though probably among the more healthy ones), and outreach overall seems limited.
Is there some Vast Hive of Community Organisation I've missed, or is this it?
We'd really like to know what plans, goals, concerns, resources, groups, etc., exist among the G+ Community population. Again, because direct outreach has been so time-consuming and generally unproductive, we've been focusing attention elsewhere (particularly on Data Takeout and exploring alternatives).
We've explored using a Google Forms survey, which can be useful for data capture, but without effective sampling the results of that don't have much validity or use. I'd be happy to discuss how to proceed on that, and any concerns over data access and use, before exploring that in more depth.
Other than that: hoping for discussion here as to what people are thinking, planning, and doing.
And of course, you're welcome at the Google+ Mass Migration community:
https://plus.google.com/communities/112164273001338979772
https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%2B_Communities
https://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/Migrating_Google%2B_Communities
Edward Morbius Under the Preserving content and data. paragraph,
ReplyDeleteCan you elaborate on this more
there are some privacy/security issues (and a workaround)
Deepak Ravlani Mostly outdated, on both points. Though you should realise you're giving your Google credentials to an application.
ReplyDeleteDeveloper says that that's used locally only. The application is desktop. And the workaround I'd proposed ... hrm, actually could work:
1. Create a new G+ profile.
2. Subscribe it to the Community(s) you want to archive.
3. Grant it Ownership status.
4. Run the archive.
5. Change the new profile's password (allows you to re-use it later) or delete it (prevents it from being used at all).
This avoids handing the Keys to the Kingdom to your entire Google account (Gmail, Android, Play Store, etc., etc., etc.)
Another problem with Single Unified Account schemas. If you give access to one thing you give access to everything.
(A criticism of Google, not Friends+Me.)
Deepak Ravlani I've edited out that bit of the post, BTW.
ReplyDelete(I've been learning more as I've been writing and researching, this got posted in the middle of that process, based on an earlier text. There's a reason I'm leaning heavily on the Wiki as it allows both edits and an audit trail of what's changed.)
Edward Morbius Thanks for your explanation. You've a point, that I had thought as well, but since most of apps connect with each other through Oauth, I believe(am not a technical person) it is more or less safe to go with it.
ReplyDeleteBut, I'll try using your workaround, it should work mostly.
Have read most of your posts here, and sincerely appreciate the attention to detail you've put in explaining everything and your genuine effort in helping G+MM community members.