I'm very interested in hearing more about how feasible this is. G Suite comes with a bunch of other benefits that would make it well worth the cost for me.
Uzy I doubt it. Google has made it clear that their current business model does not include running a social media site. The G Suite version will be more like a corporate Intranet, accessible only within the companies that buy it, and with a charge for every user.
Based on what we've seen so far from Google, all indications point to the future of Google+ in G Suite being focused on communication within a single enterprise possibly with the option of allowing people from specific other G Suite domains to also participate (likely with limitations for people from other domains). If that is correct, using G Suite would probably only work if everyone was in the same G Suite domain -- which would mean that someone would have to manage the administration and billing of individual users because the bills from Google go to do domain owners. That would be a monumental task.
Ugh, John Skeats. It's such a shame. The infrastructure is going to be there. The desire to use it is there. Google just hasn't provided a way to bring those two things together...
Bodhipaksa There are a number of differences between the G Suite and consumer versions of Google+. That leads me to believe that the G Suite and consumer versions are actually on different infrastructures but are capable of talking with each other. Assuming that is true, your statement that "the infrastructure is going to be there," would be incorrect because Google will actually taking down the consumer Google+ infrastructure.
John Skeats Well, maybe Google have been maintaining two separate yet intertwined versions of G+, but the thing is there's an infrastructure there, there are consumers that want to use it, and it comes bundled with a lot of good stuff that would make it worth the money for many of us. But it won't be possible for us to use it.
John Skeats A lot of the membership churning/billing could be solved by a non-refundable yearly fee to be added to a G Suite account.. i.e.
1- Present members of my community feel it is worth $60/yr(paid in advanced and pro-rated for later new members) to continue the community using G Suites. 2- I get a G-Suite account and add them as part of my "organization" 3- A year later renewals happen.
Granted- not every member will be willing to pay but it is one option that may be worth looking at.
Andrew Hatchett People were willing to pay for app.net - - Global Application Network subscriptions. The service was an open source alternative to twitter. Another option would be a wordpress powered community. Aside from hosting there would be few costs. Wordpress already has GDPR compliant options.
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G Suite Basic at 4 €/month includes Google+, too.
ReplyDeleteI'm very interested in hearing more about how feasible this is. G Suite comes with a bunch of other benefits that would make it well worth the cost for me.
ReplyDeleteI don´t see g+ in that plan...
ReplyDeleteThinking about this as well for my rstats.io account. Would be limited to statisics and rstats related topics.
ReplyDeleteI mean if someone decides to pay for it, there will be just a few people with it anyway
ReplyDeletePerhaps g+ will come back if the idea of paid g+ fails
Urloc San It's integral part of G Suite
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Thanks Norbert Rittel
ReplyDeleteHangouts Meet is a part of it.
ReplyDeleteI think it only works within your domain
ReplyDeleteIt also works outside of your domain if the admin allows that. I'm posting this from my own G-Suite account.
ReplyDeleteUzy I doubt it. Google has made it clear that their current business model does not include running a social media site. The G Suite version will be more like a corporate Intranet, accessible only within the companies that buy it, and with a charge for every user.
ReplyDeleteBased on what we've seen so far from Google, all indications point to the future of Google+ in G Suite being focused on communication within a single enterprise possibly with the option of allowing people from specific other G Suite domains to also participate (likely with limitations for people from other domains). If that is correct, using G Suite would probably only work if everyone was in the same G Suite domain -- which would mean that someone would have to manage the administration and billing of individual users because the bills from Google go to do domain owners. That would be a monumental task.
ReplyDeleteUgh, John Skeats. It's such a shame. The infrastructure is going to be there. The desire to use it is there. Google just hasn't provided a way to bring those two things together...
ReplyDeleteBodhipaksa There are a number of differences between the G Suite and consumer versions of Google+. That leads me to believe that the G Suite and consumer versions are actually on different infrastructures but are capable of talking with each other. Assuming that is true, your statement that "the infrastructure is going to be there," would be incorrect because Google will actually taking down the consumer Google+ infrastructure.
ReplyDeleteJohn Skeats Well, maybe Google have been maintaining two separate yet intertwined versions of G+, but the thing is there's an infrastructure there, there are consumers that want to use it, and it comes bundled with a lot of good stuff that would make it worth the money for many of us. But it won't be possible for us to use it.
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ReplyDeleteA lot of the membership churning/billing could be solved by a non-refundable yearly fee to be added to a G Suite account.. i.e.
1- Present members of my community feel it is worth $60/yr(paid in advanced and pro-rated for later new members) to continue the community using G Suites.
2- I get a G-Suite account and add them as part of my "organization"
3- A year later renewals happen.
Granted- not every member will be willing to pay but it is one option that may be worth looking at.
Andrew Hatchett People were willing to pay for app.net - - Global Application Network subscriptions. The service was an open source alternative to twitter. Another option would be a wordpress powered community. Aside from hosting there would be few costs. Wordpress already has GDPR compliant options.
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