Please use the comment area of this post to talk about your experiences with Diaspora (including Pluspora and any...
Please use the comment area of this post to talk about your experiences with Diaspora (including Pluspora and any other Diaspora pod), and how it feels to use it in comparison with G+.
No politics, please.
Thanks!
#GooglePlusAlternativeReviews.
#Diaspora
#Pluspora
No politics, please.
Thanks!
#GooglePlusAlternativeReviews.
#Diaspora
#Pluspora
I'm test driving #Pluspora, but so far I'm not a big fan of it. Seems sparse and unorganized. Not only that but if you heart a post it automatically signs you up for notifications of activity on it. I could understand that if I comment on it, but not when I 'like' it.
ReplyDeleteSo far my impressions are dominated by the fact that it's ugly, it doesn't have an iOS app, and very few people I know have moved there from G+.
ReplyDeleteI find it quite pleasing to the eye, contrary to Bodhipaksa. I also find it quite functional -- very -- when compared to MeWe and Minds.
ReplyDeleteSeveral folks already know I’m a fan. I have over 300 contacts from G+ in this first week. I get far more activity in pluspora daily and hourly than G+ where I supposedly have 21k followers. To me the quality is in conversation not just posts that are article links. There are far more actual conversations going on there than G+.
ReplyDeleteI feel confident in the number of devs and coders helping there to customize this pod AND to make the right connections for diaspora and other pods as well as Friendica, Hubzilla, etc. it will NOT be a place for photographers to upload large photos but rather upload them from another image host like Flickr and Google Photos, which is working well.
My stream is quite eclectic in topics but the majority is arts, personal and politics leaning the opposite of Right Wing Patriots. I don’t see porn or Alt-Right at all. Tag search works terrific to find people. This is a great place to go if you want variety instead of hunkering down in communities. This is a place you will have friendly conversations. No bells and whistles yet, but easy to fit in.
PS some folks use an Android app or Dandelion but I find it easy to just open on my iPhone browser. No app needed. You can toggle your view reader to mobile easily as needed. I love the filter you can apply to notifications. I just filter by “commented on”, read them and instantly “mark all as read”. Solve the concern of some who do not want any further activity on a post you “liked”.
ReplyDeleteWorking well for me but I don't run moderated communities. The lack of post re-editing and comment likes is a minor annoyance.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that concerns me about Pluspora is that they don't guarantee that any content you delete won't be deleted from other pods.
ReplyDeleteLack of features is a major turn off. As well as lack of data safety. Having to set up my own pod to be in control of my data is a steep learning curve, and given first point (lack of features) is not very compelling at all.
ReplyDeleteJohn Victor The best way to ensure that you retain control of anything you don't want retained is to self-host it, but, even then, there will usually always be a copy of it in cyberspace somewhere. If absolute control is the requirement, then the only solution is to keep it off both cyberspace and meatspace.
ReplyDeleteJohn Victor And I wasn't being glib there, btw. I'm very vigilant in protecting valuable intellectual property, but find it now harder than ever.
ReplyDeleteJohn Victor You mean will be deleted, don't you?
ReplyDeleteI find will never find anything as good as fucking G Plus they say it wasn't used much apparently we're the minority😭😭😭
ReplyDeleteSo far I'm liking it. People seem to be mostly nice and I found quite some of my old G+ contacts. I like the option to follow hashtags as well as users, and the idea of the "newuser" posts.
ReplyDeleteWhat's still missing is the ability to edit posts and comments, the ability to like comments and options to configure notifications. Also the navigation when looking at notified posts could be improved so the current position in the stream does not get lost (right now I use a second window for notifications to avoid this).
Don McCollough You can disable post notifs with the bell icon on posts.
ReplyDeleteAlan Cox Edits are (allegedly) in process, that was an issue with protocol coordination. A risk mode of federated and inter-protocol systems generally.
ReplyDeleteTrucker Kev The Paid Tourist In ten months, G+ will be dead (publicly, at least), and banging two rocks together will be at least as good.
ReplyDeleteThough there may prove to be better options than bangonrocks.com
Which is what this is about.
Edward Morbius maybe so unless I win that big lottery jackpot💰💰💰💰 here in America🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 that's going up almost to a billion dollars next week cuz nobody won that's already three-quarters of a billion dollars I'm going to hire me a big nerdy tech geek🤓🤓 to duplicate Google Plus🤣
ReplyDeleteI like #Pluspora! Good alternative and my core group is already there and getting comfortable.
ReplyDeletecobalt please You said:
ReplyDelete"This is a great place to go if you want variety instead of hunkering down in communities."
That is just what I am finding, too. Initially, I felt a bit "lost" and isolated, mainly because I have moved from the Community model of G+ to the more challenging model of pluspora Aspects.
I am still not sure I am using the pluspora features optimally but it has been tremendous to stumble upon a few newbies who are more up to speed and, most importantly, very helpful! I wasn't even sure about basics like, "can you communicate with members of other "pods"?", etc. but now I think I am getting my few remaining grey cells around it.
Heh. It's not much of a compliment, the statement that the difference between G+ and Pluspora is the banging of rocks. G+ might be gone but will still be sorely missed, Pluspora or not.
ReplyDeleteAnyone up for smokesignals.com?
How about 2can-string.com?
Clara Listensprechen Point spectacularly missed.
ReplyDeleteThe comparison to make is NOT between Google+ and whatever new option is being considered, but between the various possible alternatives.
Google+ is going away. It is dead. It is an ex-parrot.
We need, individually, to find something else. Any of which will be superior. Though some will prove more appropriate than others.
Something I'm slightly weary of explaining and repeating, though I'm sure this won't be the last time.
Since I have looked around over the last four years, I have more experience looking at different systems and have tried about 5 since since. Some I have kept "on tap" including MeWe, Mastodon, Ello and Diaspora. Of these, diaspora still kept appealing to me, partially because of the relationships of the Federation. And I am really only thinking of the social side of things.
ReplyDeleteI never once thought of "what is like G+" and the features I got used to in G+. It's time for a whole new ballgame in a completely different ballpark. Doubt it is helpful to find the most G+-like place to go: seriously, social media is changing quite a bit and needs change too. I'm keeping my options open but still, I really like the community already at pluspora, so it's like landing somewhere that hundreds of your closer friends hang out and talk in a casual atmosphere.
Edward Morbius It is slightly irritating that you criticize with false assumption that I haven’t done my homework. For myself. I feel no need to explain and relate anything other than Pluspora closely resembles the format that attracted me to G+. Im sorry you are weary. Stop trying so hard.
ReplyDeleteJohn Victor "Content deletion" in a federated network is advisory. "Deleting" a post effectively broadcats a request to do same. Though pods failing to respect the request may bee considered untrusted, non grata, etc. It's possible to audit compliance.
ReplyDeleteDiaspora explicitly states what is in fact true on all networked message-passing systems, centralised or not.
Margaret McEvoy Sorry, in reference to what?
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius The paragraph you shouted out.
ReplyDeleteMargaret McEvoy I believe that may not have been directed at you.
ReplyDeleteLet's work together, yes?
Edward Morbius Others have published volumes on what their observations were and the plethora of choices. Ad nauseum. I cut to the chase. No frills! 😀
ReplyDeletePluspora is filling out rapidly with many of my high-value contacts here. So far, over 40 (and probably more that I just haven't looked for or PMed yet). So - the quality of the experience primarily stems from the quality of the company - so far, so good. The tools could do with more expansion, and mobile is very limited. But it's starting to feel comfortable. The future of my participation will depend on a collective critical mass - enough stimulation and amusement to keep me engaged. It looks very promising so far.
ReplyDeleteOne overriding concern is the capacity of the pod, though. I hope we don't break it.
David Archer Pluspora is not (all of) Diaspora.
ReplyDeleteAnyone on any Diaspora pod (unless it's blocked) can communicate with any other, *and other parts of the Federation and Fediverse open-protocol social networks.
Some of that's theoretical, but I'm on the Joindiaspora pod and have been chatting away merrily with Pluspora and other pod members for the past week and some now. (I've actually been on diaspora for years, but was inactive for much the past five or so.)
Yes, the communications are active and reasonably high-signal.
I am so tempted to register all those domains and put just a vague signup page on those..
ReplyDeleteI've only been using Pluspora for a few days. I like the markdown support and despite only knowing a few people over there I've had a fair bit of interaction on my posts. On the downside I haven't found any way to create groups or organise posts.
ReplyDeleteI just signed up for an account in Pluspora.... It's seems pretty neat and promising. I made my first post, and I'm studying how the platform works... It seems like you cannot "edit" a previous pist or change the privacy setting of the posted status update....🤔
ReplyDeleteMy Name is JEFF That's right, you can't. I think they might be working to change that. Another issue is that communities aren't an option on Pluspora. I don't know if they're working on that, though.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Peter Maranci... We'll see in the coming days or months. It's still a new platform so there's gotta be a big room for improvement. I hope to see you all there in Pluspora when Google+ is completely gone. Let's build a massive community there where all #gplusrefugees can interact and connect with each other, just like the good old Google Plus. 💞
ReplyDeleteFor those looking for new people, my page link by the way is: pluspora.com - JEFF
The lack of moderated communities means that it can't be my only option. I do like it for just communicating randome things a lot better than yhe alternatives.
ReplyDeleteJosé Pedro Paula almost same it sounds as MUTING a post here?
ReplyDelete"Promising" is the best description I can come up with. It does fall short of G+ and the software is archaic, but it'll have to do.
ReplyDeleteMy core circle on G+ became Friends using Aspects menu.
ReplyDeleteSince I am only mildly interested in making new friends at +P I set my stream ( I think) to view Friends posts and mine only. I presume you can do the same for family colleagues or interests?
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius I am new to pluspora and have a few questions and am asking you because you clearly are knowledgeable.
ReplyDeleteCan you please explain how one can see on which pod others are? In fact, does the identity of the host pod matter to the user?(P.S. Ah! I see! I can just click on the name and see the address! Sorry!)
Does my "Stream" contain posts from ANY pod that contains one or more of my hash-tags?
Thanks in advance for any info!
I started on Pluspora/Diaspora but now do most of my posting over on Friendica. It means I can still participate with everyone on pluspora but I get some nice bonuses like groups/communities and editing. Also it's written in bbcode which is a little easier to work with.
ReplyDeleteDiaspora is by far the best idea. Now it just needs some development, and there are fora for anyone to help with that (either with own knowledge and skills, with financing desired functions or just with suggestions and input).
ReplyDeleteDiaspora is like the early G+ before the groups and stuff. But it does have a very functional tag-system. If you really miss a group, then start posting with a tag similar to the group name. Then people can "join the group" by following that tag, and "post in the group" by adding the tag to the post.
ReplyDeleteThe limitations is that you can't have closed "groups" this way, and you can't have moderators. (a "down voting" function, hiding mass reported spam posts etc, is suggested).
Roy Gardiner Hover over a username to get a card showing the full user@pod specified identity.
ReplyDeleteThe identity mostly doesn't matter, other than you've got to get it filled in correctly when tagging users or messaging them directly.
Roy Gardiner And yes, AFAIK hashtags are syndicated / replicated fully throughout the Diaspora network, though full distribution may take time. Hashtag search is also distributed, though again, search indicies may be updated only every few hours, so information may not be fully current.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius Thanks for your replies.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius as to my understanding, hashtags are by default not fully replicated over pod boundaries. Replication of posts only according to the contact links. Then, after replication, the hastag is visible for all members of the pod if the post was public.
ReplyDeleteI am trying pluspora. Many of my current G+ contacts have started a diaspora account. Still very active here on G+, but they post and interact vividly on diaspora.
ReplyDeleteSo far I like it.
Regarding features, I miss that I cannot +1 comments. I feel a bit overflooded with my stream which shows 100% of all postings ( contacts and hashtags). And I am not sure how this will scale up when I link with more people.
Christa Runge Try using Aspects in the menu. You can separate the streams according to the Aspect you have selected. Right now I am just using Friends to group my G+ circle peeps.
ReplyDeleteMargaret McEvoy can I put them into different aspects, and then tune the volume of each aspect separately? ( like in G+) ? I have not yet seen such a function.
ReplyDeleteChrista Runge I don’t know the answer to your question. It’s a good one! Just learning by the seat of my pants. I enjoy but don’t profess to know anything! 😀
ReplyDeleteChrista Runge You can select which Aspects are on by default, or view them individually.
ReplyDeleteI like Pluspora (Diaspora*) so far because it has the look and feel of the early days of G+. 'Markdown' formatting makes posts look great, and hashtags work for me. I wish I could edit posts and like comments. It's easy enough to turn off notifications on posts that I "like" to prevent too many notifications, but I agree that is annoying. I hope to see many of you there!
ReplyDeleteRajini Rao If you like Pluspora, you might also have a look at Cake. I thought that I was settled on Pluspora for personal posts and MeWe for communities, but its still evolving, and there's a lot to like about Cake.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cake.co/
Chuck Dee very nice user interface! Maybe I should wait and see where most people go...I don't have the bandwidth to be on too many networks.
ReplyDeleteRajini Rao None of us do.
ReplyDeleteNot individually.
That's why we need explorers and pioneers at this stage of the game.
Agree, Edward Morbius. I'm happy to report back on my diaspora* experience. For example, I found a chrome extension that allows crossposting between G+ and pluspora which will save me the trouble of double posting.
ReplyDeletechrome.google.com - Ghosttown - Optimizer
Rajini Rao That's one option I do have experience with.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing that Chrome extension, Rajini Rao! Wonderful!
ReplyDeleteRajini Rao Do you know if there is a counterpart extension for cross-posting in Firefox?
ReplyDeleteRoy Gardiner not yet, although the developer Ole Albers has made the source code open so someone may do it soon. gitlab.com - public_html/setup/js/gplus/diaspora.js · master · Ole Albers / GooglePlusOptimizer
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know how to edit a post in Pluspora? I don't think that feature is available there. It'd be nice if the developer add that feature.
ReplyDelete꧁JEFF꧂ Edit is not supported. Delete and re-submit, or live with eternal evidence of your flawed human nature.
ReplyDelete(There's a long-standing request for that feature, and some, very slow, progress toward this.)
Edward Morbius To that point, that's one of the downsides that have been quoted of diaspora- that the stack was not one that many developers work (or are willing to work) on, resulting in the slow progress.
ReplyDeletestill learning how to use it. I have found several of my G+ contacts and we have connected. With the result that my stream is full and I feel that I have no control.
ReplyDeleteI get 100% of their posts in a strict timeline. It feels like twitter. Those who post much dominate the stream; those who post little are just no more visible.
But these days I have learnt that I can filter and view single aspects instead of all at once. I think this is useful, but maybe need to reorganize my aspects.
Besides this I am missing small features, e.g. I cannot +1 a comment. But as I understand this will be added. And the user interface is a bit confusing. But this I can learn.
Christa Runge I've takeen to dividing my contacts intto very-high-value infrequent posters, higher / med / standard interest, "voluble", friends (chitchat), and a few specialty classifications. That tends to make things far more manageable. I rarely hit the main stream itself.
ReplyDeleteEdward Morbius yes, this sounds like a good strategy.
ReplyDeleteChrista Runge A key is to not overclassify. Three interest levels, mostly, works. Move people up or down through that. More frequent posting almost always means lower priority.
ReplyDeleteA "provisional" category for new profiles is also handy.
I am increasingly happy in using pluspora. Maybe that is not surprising because at the outset one has to "learn the ropes" and those ropes are very different to their G+ counterparts.
ReplyDeleteIn fact I am preferring pluspora to G+. I read somewhere that a fundamental difference is that in the absence of "groups" there is a more "individual to individual" interaction and I think that is correct. Maybe I am still in the honeymoon phase but I am finding myself much more inclined to post than was the case in G+.
In one G+ group that I am in there is a most pronounced cliquishness. The group members like it that way and are resistant to change and to the ingress of new influences. They actually admit it!