Hubzilla and Pluspora Cross Posting Test
Just a quick note, as I haven't seen much of anything about it: Cross posting from a Hubzilla account to a Pluspora account works.
Although I set up the ability on my Hubzilla account a few days ago, I hadn't had a chance to try it out before today. I was interested in testing the capability because although Hubzilla seems to have some additional features that Pluspora lacks, and that are nice to use, it also seems to have picked up fewer G+ refugees than Pluspora has. So it's a way to hedge my bet on which site to be on, while waiting to see how development proceeds, without having to duplicate posts across sites.
It was quite simple to do. It required adding the Diaspora protocol to my Hubzilla account, then adding my Pluspora account as a contact on Hubzilla. Once that was done, the new post on Hubzilla appeared on the Pluspora account in just a few moments.
Hopefully, it will also work in the reverse direction. I'm hoping to try that in the next few days.
Just a quick note, as I haven't seen much of anything about it: Cross posting from a Hubzilla account to a Pluspora account works.
Although I set up the ability on my Hubzilla account a few days ago, I hadn't had a chance to try it out before today. I was interested in testing the capability because although Hubzilla seems to have some additional features that Pluspora lacks, and that are nice to use, it also seems to have picked up fewer G+ refugees than Pluspora has. So it's a way to hedge my bet on which site to be on, while waiting to see how development proceeds, without having to duplicate posts across sites.
It was quite simple to do. It required adding the Diaspora protocol to my Hubzilla account, then adding my Pluspora account as a contact on Hubzilla. Once that was done, the new post on Hubzilla appeared on the Pluspora account in just a few moments.
Hopefully, it will also work in the reverse direction. I'm hoping to try that in the next few days.
This is excellent news! I plan to set up a Hubzilla node for myself & my household, and hope to crosspost/share to & from diaspora, mastodon and (eventually) DreamWidth.
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ReplyDeleteIt does work in the reverse direction. I've tested it out with Hubzilla, Pluspora, and Friendica.
ReplyDeleteDerek Lichter Can't speak to how reliably it works at present, but it was nice to see that it worked.
ReplyDeleteWe we're actually thinking about adding either a Friendica pod or a Hubzilla pod alongside the pluspora pod as an option for people who wanted to set up groups, and have people migrate and do crossposting and add their contact list. We weren't sure if it would get too confusing or if people would actually like the option? It's just some thing we were discussing between ourselves.
ReplyDeletePlease keep us posted!
Di Cleverly Brilliant news!
ReplyDeleteOh, interesting!
ReplyDeleteI've done a lot of testing groups and federation with Hubzilla - mostly with diaspora, but also Friendica and Mastodon.
ReplyDeleteThe short version is that federation via the diaspora protocol works great; federation via ActivityPub is...not so good. Basically, comments don't propagate properly, reliably, via ActivityPub, even between Hubzilla pods and even between Friendica pods. You just have to get used to not everyone seeing all the same comments.
But federation between Hubzilla or Friendica with diaspora seems pretty solid (it uses diaspora protocol rather than ActivityPub).
Now, unfortunately this still does not mean a smooth experience with Hubzilla or Friendica groups with diaspora. Diaspora doesn't have groups, so it doesn't understand the meaning of bang mentions to post to a Hubzilla/Friendica group. Unfortunately, Hubzilla and Friendica do assume diaspora pods understand this. As a result, the post will NOT propagate back to the diaspora pod it came from. People on other diaspora pods may be able to see the posts, but people on the originating diaspora pod will not (except as a post by the originating user - and they see it as a post from that individual, not as a post by the group).
All in all, I just gave up on the whole thing. I never liked Communities in the first place, I was just doing it as a favor to try and help figure out an alternative for the Retrocomputing Community.
For diaspora, I think it's better to go with hashtag following than any sort of Groups. I hate Groups. I hate how they segregate discussions into separate silos.
Di Cleverly Yay!
ReplyDeleteAlso, if anyone can figure out how to crosspost between Blogger and Diaspora (or vice versa), you'll gain my undying loyalty. I wanna post "casual" stuff to Diaspora, and "formal" stuff to both.
John Hattan once the diaspora API is released cross posting to blogger should be possible.
ReplyDeleteIsaac Kuo For me, the benefit would come from being on Friendica or Hubzilla and sharing my posts either to D* (and keeping within the limitations thereof) or occasionally to other contacts on F or H. So the !mention for Forums would never appear in my posts intended for D*.
ReplyDeleteI am on pluspora and am enjoying it very much. But I am not educated in Federation issues or how "cross-posting" works. I think I understand what it is (tailoring one's target audience?), but not how to make it happen. Are there related instructions in "Help" on pluspora?
ReplyDeleteGroups! There's a solution for my community needs!
ReplyDeleteFrom experience (with my Hubzilla hub) expect runtime and forwarding problems. Those are caused by how different pods are configured. It may take some time until posts and comments from Diaspora are mitigated to your Hub. And you may see comments in the wrong order. But that is not a problem of Hubzilla, but of the source hubs and pods.
ReplyDeleteFriendica like Hubzilla "federates" with almost all of the Fediverse and Federation. It is however the more mature codebase with a new release this past month and another planned in March. The developer team is mostly the same folks but the use case for each is a little different. Diaspora is also actively supported but only federates with others who use the federation protocol.
ReplyDeleteThere are some technical limitations of Diaspora that will impact the user experience and lead to some misunderstandings in conversations with people on Hubzilla and Friendica (ask me how I know LOL). Pluspora contacts cannot see edits made by Friendica and Hubzilla users and cannot see comment likes or dislikes. There are some other differences as well like Diaspora not having categories to replace collections and an integrated event calendar or easy integration with mostly all social network types.
But the edit and like/dislike limitations are what led to a lot of misunderstandings in the beginning for me. So I have to be cognizant and hope to avoid future misunderstandings with pluspora contacts since I am on Friendica by preference on features. Hopefully, the diaspora folks will get these issues resolved.
As for cross posting, in Friendica, it just works without much fuss.
Can confirm, did my own testing back when picking platforms, and Hubzilla, Friendica and Diaspora all interoperate. Pick whichever you like best and you can socialize with your friends on whichever they like best.
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