Please please please use your G+ screen name and profile image on MeWe. Also delete the other profiles. When your identity cannot be verified, many group owners/administrators refuse membership and many of us refuse contact requests as well. Don't be left out in the cold when G+ shuts down soon.
I thought MeWe was supposed to be very very strong on protecting privacy?? Shouldn't I be able to use my real name there instead of having to continue to use an alias? And since privacy is the central premise of MeWe it is disturbing that people should have to cross link to other social media to verify identity.
ReplyDeleteIMHO if you are on MeWe running a community and are refusing direct contact that would permit people to validate their identity through private communications, then you are probably on the wrong site.
I am there and if a profile does not identify someone I do not add them. They are k. Limbo there are so nay sex porno bots that it behuves one to be cautious... Just a thought... It is not MeWe it is the individuals being plagued by porn
ReplyDeleteActually the mewe ceo doesn't encourage or discourage real names, he says it's a place where you can be whatever side of you that you want to be. There's a video of him talking about that, can't find the reference right now. But, that said, mewe's growth spurt will cause lots of growing pains dealing with identities and bots. Guess none of us really knows how it's going to evolve, real names or not.
ReplyDeleteWalter Roberson. Bill Brayman hit the nail on the head on all counts.....you can show as much or as little as you want. In my case, only what I want to reveal is revealed. Having been the target several times of stalkers and trolls in recent months, I appreciate having the tools to exercise my own judgement The other party has the option to remain obscure and I, likewise, have the right to deny group memberships and/or personal contacts assuming there is no information for a decision.
ReplyDeleteOverall, MeWe membership is closed to non-members and not indexed by search engines(Google, Bing, Yahoo, Yandex, etc.). Thus, it cannot be accessed by everyone around the world.
On a personal basis, I would like the profile of the "asker" to be provided to the "askee" for group membership and/or contact permissions.
John Wickham But there could be information to make a decision if you were not blocking direct contacts.
ReplyDeleteWalter Roberson Potential direct contacts are NOT blocked. Insufficient information on which to make an affirmative decision is the askers choice. Ample room is available in the left pane. A generic image is only given when no other is available.
ReplyDeleteJohn Wickham "and many of us refuse contact requests as well" vs "Potential direct contacts are NOT blocked" seems a bit difficult to reconcile, unless you are saying that you personally do not block direct contacts but you know that it is being done ?
ReplyDeleteWalter Roberson There is no known way to "block" a profile on MeWe. That said, it should also be noted that the burden of proof is on the person making the request....not on the person receiving the request.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line is that SME's are operated according to the Golden Rule...."he who has the gold makes the rule." Guess who has the gold. :-)
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In addition to This discussion now you have that choice to have your post show to public or contacts this is only public will be only with all me we members it will help a lot of migrants to get a better judgment and not just have a guess u who is on the other end this feature just started 2 days ago
ReplyDeleteFor example if you search my name is same as I use here in G+ you will see my public post but you will not see my other post share with my contacts btw have a wonderful day everyone apologies for interrupting you
ReplyDeleteJohn Wickham I see. You are not "blocking" direct contacts on MeWe, you are just refusing to look at the contact requests, and playing a game of "My community, my rules about what hoops you will have to jump through to join"?
ReplyDeleteThere is a difference between advising people that if they use a different name and/or picture than they do on G+, that there is a risk that community owners on MeWe might not bother to look further or provide any useful methods to establish identity (i.e. pragmatic advice)
versus/ telling everyone that same name and picture is what Must be done or (Kant Categorical Imperative), that same name and picture is what you Will was universally done and that you aren't really open to discussing the matter.
Shrug. It's not the way that I would run things. But then in my social circles it is not uncommon for people to change public identifiers as their life evolves, or to make it harder for someone to stalk them, or to protect themselves from discrimination as countries and societies get more intolerant towards harmless differences. Or even just because they get married.
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ReplyDeleteWalter Roberson I have been a victim of porn spammers, trolls and other assorted assorted human vermin recently. My obligation is to protect my contacts and group members in any way possible. If you have a better way, please let me know.
ReplyDeleteI am not going to waste time searching all of the SME"s and data aggregators on the internet for information that may not even be there. That would be a gross invasion of privacy as well as a waste of time and effort.
The burden of proof is on the person requesting, not the person being requested.
What good would that do - suppose someone else just copies the details.
ReplyDeleteIf you are relying on a screen name and a publically downloadable picture you might as well not bother it's so fakeable.
Alan Cox It allows the checking on G+. Can see the history of posts on G+. Also I can message back on G+ for more details before accepting.
ReplyDeleteNot perfect but half a loaf is better than no loaf.
After G+ shuts down, they become the spoils of war unless suitability can be determined somehow. As always, the burden of proof of proof is on the person who is making the request, not the other way around.
John Wickham ... And if a person doing the requesting was not having their contact requests ignored, they could say, "Hey, over on G+ I'm so-and-so, and if you contact me there I will confirm that this is my MeWe profile." Identity negotiation could take place in private, rather than forcing someone to re-use their G+ public identity on a system dedicated to privacy.
ReplyDeleteWalter Roberson Contact requests are NEVER ignored. They can always reach me on G+.
ReplyDeleteWalter Roberson Blank, fake and cloned profiles without a way to contact are often the hallmark of a porn spammer.
ReplyDeleteJohn Wickham Your posting that we are discussing contained "and many of us refuse contact requests as well".
ReplyDeleteEarlier I offered the possibility that the apparent contradiction in your statements might reflect a difference between what you personally do and what you know that some other people do. However, your response was just to reiterate that the burden of proof is on the person doing the asking.
The difference between what you personally do and what other people do is significant in this context because your original post was written as prescriptive, that everyone migrating from G+ to MeWe should do things the way you indicate, rather than being written as advisory ("This is something that is happening; doing this this way might reduce the friction.")
It would be instructive to know whether your post is written on behalf of and in consultation with other people who run communities on MeWe after migrating from G+: for example is there a MeWe community in which standards of proof of identity are discussed and you are reporting back the consensus?
Because with your repeated "the burden of proof" statements, we could easily imagine that over on MeWe, Alice might have decided that they will only accept people who change their G+ profile picture to show the account holder wearing a green top-hat, but Betty might have decided that they will only accept people who change their G+ profile picture to show the account holder wearing a propeller beanie -- contradictory standards.
If there is no consensus or discussion about what will be accepted, then your original post is not "This is what is needed to be accepted on MeWe", and is instead "This is what I require you to do for me to accept you on MeWe, except that it isn't really my standards."
Walter Roberson At no point have I ever said or implied "thou shalt." Tolerance for risk for any given situation is an individual choice. Mine happens to be based on recent years as an IT manager responsible for security, current owner of a rural computer service business providing providing Minneapolis/St. Paul quality at rural prices(sometimes for free) and of other owners in private chat rooms.
ReplyDeleteI feel a moral obligation to protect group members and personal contacts